Dumbledore and Draco on the Tower (WAS Re: Peter's basic .)
horridporrid03
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Fri Dec 23 22:50:36 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 145299
> >>zgirnius:
> > Yes, but Dumbledore pretty deliberately put himself in that
> > position.
> > I think it was precisely in order to be able to say his piece.
> > Harry able to move around would certainly have interfered in
> > some way (even just knowing Harry was there would affect Draco).
> > And, armed, Dumbledore could not prove his point to Draco.
> > Because there are any number of reasons Draco might hesitate to
> > try and kill an armed Dumbledore.
> >>a_svirn:
> Sorry, but it doesn't sound very convincing. According to you
> Dumbledore effectively sacrificed his life in order to "prove his
> point to Draco". The suggestion is simply to fantastical for me to
> accept.
Betsy Hp:
It *is* fantastical. But it is also the foundation of
Christianity. Dumbledore gave his life to save the soul of a
child. I happen to think Dumbledore was already dying, so I'm not
saying Dumbledore *is* Christ. But he certainly behaves in a very
Christ-like way. I really liked what Mari had to say about this
scene, particularly this part here:
> >>Mari:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/145237
> <snip>
> The real opportunity for mercy does indeed lie with Dumbledore.
> Dumbledore could disarm, disable or stun Draco. Here we come to the
> second specific element of mercy as I believe JKR is trying to
> define it; when it is offered, mercy, like grace, can be rejected.
> <snip>
Betsy Hp:
This is the sort of behavior Voldemort will never understand. Draco
is a worthless child, not even a qualified wizard yet; Dumbledore is
arguably the most powerful wizard in the WW. And yet Dumbledore
wastes the last of his strength on this child. I think it's because
Dumbledore sees worth in every person, and he values something much
higher than his own life.
Ultimately Dumbledore expressed an incredibly high level of love on
that Tower. I'm quite confident his actions there will end up
helping in the defeat of Voldemort. At least if JKR plans on being
consistant with her stated theme.
Betsy Hp
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