Heroes and Not - What should Snape Have Done?.

juli17 at aol.com juli17 at aol.com
Mon Dec 26 07:21:15 UTC 2005


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"Steve" <bboyminn at y...> wrote:

> I don't agree that  just any DE 
> could kill Harry, and Voldemort
> would feel the same  level of 
> paranoia and threat. 
 
Eggplant wrote:

Perhaps, but I think Mr. Joe Average Death Eater  would have a very
difficult time killing Harry. With the significant  exception of Snape
none of the other Death Eaters in the tower that night  were a match
for Harry, not even the mighty werewolf, Harry disposed of them  one
after another. To my mind this suggests that both Harry and Snape  are
extraordinarily powerful wizards.  
 
Julie:
You may be right that the Average DE would have a difficult time
killing Harry. That still doesn't explain why Snape stopped the DE
from crucioing Harry. Even if the DE doesn't kill him (which would
presumably be a nice bonus to Snape, who's only in trouble with
Voldemort if he does the deed on Harry), what possible reason
could Snape have for not letting the DE at least torture Harry for
a long as he could? Snape detests Harry, so why wouldn't he
see the cursed brat suffer while he makes his escape without
any further interference?
 
There's no good reason ESE! or even OFH! Snape is going to
bother stopping the DE from crucioing Harry. But there is a 
very good reason for DDM!Snape to stop the DE from crucioing
Harry. 




Festuco wrote:
>Greyback was doing fine before
>someone else petrfied him.
 
Eggplant wrote:
For a second or two you shook my confidence, I was  wondering if I was
crazy and you could be right, but I've just reread that  part of the
book. And I was right. Unless my eyes are deceiving me Harry is  the
one who petrified Greybeck not "someone else". No mater how you  spin
it Greybeck was not "doing fine".
 
Julie:
Sorry, but that moment is very ambiguous. Harry can't raise his wand
before Fenrir is on him. Harry feels Fenrir's "hot greedy breath on  his
throat--"
"Pertrificus Totalis!" 
Then "Harry felt Fenrir collapse against him; with a stupendous  effort
he pushed the werewolf off..." (etc, etc, as scene continues)
 
I don't know if JKR was being deliberately vague, but it is not
at all clear whether Harry managed the spell himself (wandless 
magic, is he even capable of it?), or if someone else shouted it. 
So you're not right. No one can be right on this one, because
it's inconclusive. If JKR was reading this right now, and  thought
"Hey, I didn't realize I left that moment ambiguous!" she could 
play a game of musical chairs with her characters (at least the 
one's present in the area at the moment, like Bill, Ginny, Tonks,
Snape, etc, right to Harry), and the last one standing gets to
be the Petrificus Totalis caster ;-) Not that she'd want to, but
still...
 
Julie 



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