Secondary thought on Patronuses
h2so3f
h2so3f at yahoo.com
Wed Dec 28 23:51:48 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 145530
Julie wrote: <snip>
"1. Why wouldn't members of the Order already know the identity of
Snape's patronus? I think they would, and it could be that they know
Snape's patronus has always been a bat (or Hebridean Black). And
even if they don't, that would seem a pretty obvious patronus for
Snape. And if the Order (or someone like Hermione) would quickly
figure out its origin, how could it remain anonymous? "
CH3ed:
I agree with Juli. I don't know exactly how a patronus communicates,
but at least the 5 OotP members who were at 12 GP when Snape
contacted them about Harry's disappearance have seen what Snape's
pre HBP patronus was.
Julie wrote: <snip>
"My theory: Snape's patronus *was* a bat. That is how the Order
members identify messages from him, messages they would certainly
ignore after Snape's actions in HBP. So in book seven Snape will
change his patronus to something else, the something JKR says will
reveal too much (in essence, it will reveal his loyalty to
Dumbledore). The brief mention of Tonk's changing her patronus in
HBP already served to let us know that a patronus *can* be changed
(this bit certainly served no other purpose in HBP). Snape will then
use his new post-HBP patronus to send messages to Harry and/or the
Order. And since it will have some association with Dumbledore, no
one will suspect Dumbledore's murderer could possibly be the one
sending anonymous, helpful information to the Good side. Thus Snape
will help Harry without revealing himself and ending up dead or in
Azkaban first."
CH3ed:
I agree with most of what Julie says except for the form of a
patronus being the way to identify from whom the patronus is from
and the intentional changing of one's patronus.
Like PotionCat in the other thread, I don't think one can
intentionally change one's patronus (just like one can't pick what
animal one turns into when one learned how to become an animagus).
Tonks' changed patronus form is likely involuntary( I wonder if her
patronus is back to its pre-HBP form now that Tonks and Lupin are
together). I think the change of one's patronus reflects the change
in one's character and that's why JKR can't reveal Snape's patronus
form (and his greatest fear...in the form of his boggart). It would
spoil the mystery of where Snape really stands.
Also if the form of the patronus is the only way to identify who
sent it then Snape shouldn't have recognized Tonks' changed patronus
in HBP. So I agree with Steve/bboyminn that there are other features
in the message-delivering patronus that helps identify it beside its
shape.
CH3ed :O)
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