Harry's protection

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No: HPFGUIDX 145546

Monique wrote: <snip and edit> 
"What exactly did she (Mme. Bones) mean by "past events"? How big of 
an event or events was it that it had to be "closely monitored"? Was 
Harry going to live there the event? -- I think it has something to 
do with this : 
(LV talking) "But how to get at Harry Potter? For he has been 
better protected that I think even he knows, protected in ways 
devised by Dumbledore long ago, when it fell to him to arrange 
the boy's future. Dumbledore invoked an ancient magic, to ensure 
the boy's protection as long as he is in his relations' care. Not 
even I can touch him there...." (GOF, pg, 657 US, Ch 33)

IMO, DD did very big and important magic at Privet Drive before 
he took Harry there. And because the books say "ways" and "events" 
it was more than one single piece of magic. Enough to get the 
Ministry involved. It would explain the time that's missing from 
LV downfall and Harry showing up at the Dursleys. 

CH3ed:
Welcome to the group, Monique!! :O) I don't really know what Mme. 
Bones was referring to either. It could be from Harry's previous 
citations about using magic out of school (Dobby's levitating the 
cake in CoS, and Harry dilating his aunt in PoA). It seems they 
might have checked to make sure no wizard other than Harry lived in 
Little Whinging, and so it must have been Harry breaking the law. Or 
maybe Mme. Bones was referring to something else entirely.

As to the second point, my impression is that the ancient magic was 
invoked by Lily's act of shielding her son.... and what DD did was 
completing the deal by making sure that Lily's only surviving 
relative allows Harry a house room. Once Petunia accepted Harry to 
live with her the ancient magical protection contract is sealed and 
became effective as long as Harry can call Petunia's house his home 
until he comes of age.


Monique wrote: <snip>
"Also, how does LV know that he can't touch Harry there? LV's been
"less than the meanest ghost" since that night he tried to kill 
Harry. So who told him about the ancient magic? Given the two 
passages and the few people LV came in contact with since that 
night I think it was Bertha Jorkins who told him. She would have 
known all about it if the Ministry had been monitoring that place 
since before Harry went to live there."

CH3ed:
I doubt that Bertha Jorkins knew about Harry's ancient magic 
protection at The Dursleys'. I think it likely that LV deduced it 
from having that AK rebounded on him and from his encounter with 
Harry in PS/SS (Quirrell/LV couldn't touch Harry). I don't think LV 
didn't have an idea of how love magic works. He's just averse to it 
and so tends to ignore or dismiss it and that caused his own 
downfall the first time when he forgot he couldn't touch Harry after 
killing Lily (he admitted it in the graveyard scene in GoF). 

What I wonder about is why LV doesn't try to assassinate Petunia. It 
seems to me that if Petunia doesn't live, then Harry wouldn't have 
a 'place where his mother's blood dwells' as a safe place to hide in.


Monique wrote:
"What was the ancient magic, if any? How does this tie in with 
Book 7? And DD's story? I just wanted share my thoughts and ask 
everyone else's." 

CH3ed:
I think the ancient magic is the love that Lily showed in dying in 
the place of her son. And that love is somehow tied to blood 
relatives, so Petunia must accept Harry into her home for the 
protection to kick in. DD's part is in recognizing that there was a 
deal to zeal, and he made sure that it got sealed indeed. I suppose 
there was a witness (live or portrait) to Lily's action at GH who 
told DD how LV's AK rebounded and LV didn't die from it, so DD would 
realized that LV had done something that prevented him from 
dying....probably made a horcrux...and so the danger wasn't over yet 
(tho plenty other wizards thought LV had died) and DD needed to 
protect Harry by utilizing Lily's selfless action.


CH3ed .... sleep is a flighty temptess indeed, but I'm not giving up 
yet...just taking a break from my quest. ;O)