Real child abuse/ Mcgonagall

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Thu Dec 29 22:16:26 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 145581


Jim Ferer:
> Count me in with you.  The term 'child abuse' is being thrown around
> carelessly here, drawing no distinction between bullying students
> (reprehensible though it is) and kids covered with cigarette burns,
> broken limbs, and 14 year olds that weight 70 pounds. I've seen 
this,
> and it's nauseating. Snape's actions aren't remotely child abuse.

Alla:

I won't argue with you about whether Snape is a child abuser or not, 
I've done plenty of arguing on this topic and suspect that I will do 
plenty more in the future, I just want to object to "term being 
thrown around carelessly". Please believe me, I do not throw around 
the words "child abuse" carelessly, I certainly thought a lot before 
I determined for myself that Snape is a child abuser and of course I 
make the distinctions between cases you described and what Snape 
does. The cases you describe are the cases of physical abuse IMO 
Snape is an emotional abuser with the strong potential to be the 
physical one as shows IMO what he did to Harry after Pensieve trip.



Jim Ferrer: 
> But I don't agree with you that Snape is just 'tough on students.' 
He
> bullies them and does nasty things to Neville's head, and treats his
> non-favorites unfairly.

Alla:

The line though between bullying and especially emotional abuse is 
very thin, no? What one person sees as bullying, especially by the 
person in power, another one sees as abuse, IMO.


Jim Ferrer:
 To me the opposite of Snape is McGonagall, who
> is the anti-Snape: tough, demanding, and uncompromising, but fair 
and
> caring for the students. Her style is well suited for 'gut' courses
> like Transfiguration. I've learned a lot under the McGonagalls I've
> met, even if I didn't like it at the time.  There's no place for 
Snape
> in teaching, in my opinion, but plenty for McGonagall.
>


Alla:

On that we completely agree, although as I said before I think 
Mcgonagall also treated Neville badly couple of times, but in general 
I love her very much.

JMO of course,

Alla.








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