Mrs. Weasley and Gringotts/Peeves

Steve bboyminn at yahoo.com
Thu Dec 29 23:02:35 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 145587

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "foodiedb" <foodiedb at o...> wrote:
>
> Hi all, I'm rather new at this so I am sorry if this has been
> asked:  
> How (in GOF) did Mrs. Weasley get some of Harry's gold for him
> out his Gringotts vault?
> 

bboyminn:

On this, I have nothing but speculation. I speculate that the Goblins
have magical means of determining the validity of a transaction. If
Mrs. Weasley had been trying to get into Harry's vault to rob him,
they would have likely detected deceit, and wouldn't have allowed her
to have the money. However, since Mrs. Weasley is truly acting on
Harry's behalf, she has, in a sense, implied permission to access his
vault for a specific purpose. The Goblins see this as a valid
transaction, Harry gave implied permission, and they allow it.

Also, let's not forget that Mrs. Weasley's son works at Gringotts, and
that would probably lend to her credibility. 

I've also speculated that Gringotts has something resembling Checks or
Credit Cards. In my own fiction, to savey Harry and Ron from having to
carry money around all the time, they simply sign their name to the
check/bill/receipt for what ever they buy, be it lunch, drinks, or
merchandise. That signature turns the check/bill/receipt into a Bank
Draft/Check that authorises the transfer of funds to the account of
the merchant in the amount specified. 

So, extending this, to buy Harry books and supplies for him, Mrs.
Weasley probably signs the receipts and indicates the Vault Number,
and the bank accepts the receipt as if it were a Bank Draft or Credit
Card authorization. In otherwords, they bill Harry's vault directly
based on Mrs. Weasley's signature. 

Again, the Goblins magical truth detection comes into play. They are
able to determine that Molly's requests for funds from Harry Vault are
 valid requests on Harry's behalf and they let them go through.

Again, speculation, but reasonable speculation, I think.

> DB:
>
> Also,why does Dumbledore allow Peeves to stay at Hogwarts?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> DB

bboyminn:

JKR answered this in an interview. It might have been the
MuggleNet/LeakyCauldron interview. Dumbledore and all the other
headmasters allow Peeves to stay because they /can't/ get him out. The
best they can do is hope to exert some degree of control over him. I
believe JKR compared Peeves to a fungus that you can never quite get
rid of once it starts to grow. 

Remember, that since Peeves is a Poltergeist, he is not a ghost or a
departed human. He is a malevolent essense that thrives in chaos and
disorder. Unlike ghosts, Peeves can be both solid and ethereal. He can
interact with objects in the real world in ways the ghosts can't. So,
Peeves is a very unique circumstance that the headmasters have to put
up with.

That said, I don't think Dumbledore would get rid of Peeves even if he
could. I think he likes the idea that Peeves keeps school life from
getting boring. I can imagine former students, many years later,
sitting around having a drink and trading Peeves stories, to the
uproarious laugher of their friends.

Just a few thoughts.

Steve/bboyminn







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