The Locket and Mundungus

[Wink45zes at aol.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 145638

bboyminn:

It's not likely that Mundungus has the Locket since it was thrown in
the garbage and I don't think Mundungus was around at the time.
However, we know that Kreacher was lurking about with the specific
intent of salvaging items. So, I'm betting Kreacher removed it from
the trash and added it to his little horde.

That makes me wonder how Harry will ever find it. Kreacher doesn't
seem very cooperative, and is unlikely to voluntee the information. I
can't help but wonder what circumstance will occur in which Kreacher
will give Harry the information he needs.

Wink45:
Just a couple points to think about.  While this wasn't the old Black locket, 
but one brought to the house by Regulus.  However it seems that although it 
was known that Regulus tried to leave Voldemort's ranks, he was not blasted off 
the family tree, so Kreacher may have saved the locket in memory of Regulus 
anyway. 

I think it would be fairly easy for Harry to order Kreacher to tell him where 
it is, if Harry remembers he has that power.

On the other hand, while the Hog's Head barkeep (Alberforth?) didn't seem 
interested in buying all of the Black loot, he may have picked out a few choice 
items, including the locket. 

I do note that the exact circumstances around Regulus's death are not known. 
Sirius says that he was killed by Voldemort or on his orders.  But what if 
Regulus had managed to destroy the Horcrux, and the act cost him his life?  
Remember, that locket is broken, when it was found in the cabinet no one could open 
it.  Just as the stone in the ring was cracked, broken. And as the diary book 
was destroyed. 


bboyminn:

Here is a question that I'm sure we CAN'T answer but it would be good
to know. What happened to the objects from the Black house that were
thrown away? Were they taken out back and vansihed? Were they set on
the curb for the trashman to pick up? Are they just lying in a big
pile behind the house? 

If they were vanished, can they be un-vanished? We see Bill 'vanish' a
lot of maps and documents in the beginning of OotP when Harry enters
the kitchen after the Order's meeting. Certainly, he would not want to
permanently vanish those documents. Of course, the fact that the
documents vanished doesn't necessarily mean they were 'vanished'. 

Wink45:
I think there are a couple different spells that make objects seem to vanish. 
 One would be what is used to clean up after a potions lesson, vanishing for 
good and ever all the good and disastrous attempts at potions making. These 
smelly and potentially dangerous solutions are not something you want hanging 
around. 

The other spell would be move like "sending" and object, like Bill sends the 
maps to a cabinet elsewhere, or Dumbledore sends Harry's trunk to the Burrow.  
Kind of like Apparating, but doing it to an object rather than the self.  

I think we can forget about leaving it all out for the trashman.  Arthur 
would never condone letting magical items fall into Muggle hands.  Because its a 
mixture of magical and mundane, I suspect it was just bagged up and held until 
someone remembered to take it into the Ministry of Magic where the Department 
of Muggal Artifacts could sort it all out. 


bboyminn:

I wonder what Harry will do about Mundungus stealing from Sirius's
house? I hope he forces Mundungus to go find every object and bring it
back.

I was also very disappoint that Sirius's purge of the house was so
ruthless. First many of the object he so uncerimoniously threw away
were valuable, both in cash value and in historic value. I suspect at
some point Harry will very much regret that those objects aren't
around as reminders of Sirius and his family history.

Wink45:
I do think Harry will want to have anything that was a personal item of 
Sirius's; the things he liked and kept.  But the Black Family things that Sirius 
had rejected wouldn't hold any meaning for Harry.  Besides, he has the portrait 
of old Mrs. Black and the family tree tapestry with which to remember that 
family's history.  I think Harry was more upset that Sirius was being robbed; 
about  the act of violation rather than about the things that were taken. 

In fact, I strongly suspect that Harry will return to 12 Grimauld Place to 
collect some of Sirius's stuff (as well as the locket?).  On her website, 
Rowling has hinted that the mirror from Sirius "will help more than [we] think" in 
the last books.    Hmm, could it be that Harry will find the mating mirror, and 
give it to Ron so they can stay in touch while Harry is off hunting 
Horcurxes? 

Wink45


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