Who was with Voldemort at GH? /quick PoA question./Real child abuse

[Kathy]

No: HPFGUIDX 145649


See my post 145203 - I know it was Snape at GH.  It's the only thing 
that ties everything together...it gives us the reason Dumbledore 
trusts Snape - and the reason Snape is tied to Harry.  It's the only 
logical answer.
KathyO



--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" 
<dumbledore11214 at y...> wrote:
>
> Jen:
> A bigger deal would be if someone 
> > was with Voldemort that night, a question JKR refuses to answer.
> > Snape would be the biggest surprise<snip for details> The only 
> problem is Snape was already on DD's side by then and would 
> > have tried to warn Dumbledore, unless Voldemort surprised him 
with 
> > the trip to GH. <snip>
> 
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Jen, I think that Snape IS a best candidate to be at Godric 
Hollow, 
> simply because the BANG will be even bigger and IMO you can never 
> have enough hate built up between Harry and Snape. I don't see 
Snape 
> being there as a problem either for the reason you described IF He 
> is DD! Man OR that he never truly wanted to warn the Potters and 
> longed to be there IF he is truly Voldemort second in command and 
> maybe he just wanted to see Voldemort fulfilling his promise and 
> giving him Lily as a prize. Ewwwww.
> 
> 
>  Jen:
> > Who else would be a WOW, though? Peter or Lucius wouldn't be a 
big 
> > surprise. <snip>I get the feeling we will be surprised by who 
was 
> > there because JKR has kept it so secretive. Another traitor, 
then? 
> 
> Alla:
> 
> I agree, NOBODY will have such an effect, BUT Snape IMO and as you 
> said we know it is important. That is the same reason why I was 
sure 
> that Snape was an eavesdropper - made no sense to introduce 
somebody 
> else and Snape would be BANGy.
> 
> > 
> > CH3ed:
> > > But I agree with Jen that Albus and Aberforth Dumbeldore might 
be
> > > Gryffindor's heirs.
> > 
> > Jen: Cool!
> >
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Heeeee. Me too, me too and don't forget that JKR said that Fawkes 
is 
> Albus' possession, not Hogwarts. 
> 
> 
> Alla:
> 
> I am rereading PoA now and have a small question. When Harry buys 
> books for the school year, the one which he buys for Divination is 
> called "Unfogging the future" by Cassandra Vablatsky - PoA, p.53, 
> hardcover, am.edition.
> 
> Trelawney's ancestor name is Cassandra. Is it the same Cassandra? 
> Does it mean that Trelawney IS able to teach her students 
something 
> at least, since she knows which books to select? Maybe the real 
Seer 
> will emerge from the students in book 7?
> 
> 
> 
> Miles:
> > You may be right with your basic assumption that Snape is an 
> abuser, though
> > I personally doubt it - IMO he is not. 
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Oh, I do think that Snape has all the skills to be physical abuser 
> and showed it off quite nicely couple of times too. So, I don't 
> think that he is just an emotional abuser. It is just something 
that 
> he is especially good at, IMO, but he has all the potential in the 
> world to be good at physical abuse too, IMO. I think he learned 
well 
> from his days with Voldie.
> 
> 
> Miles:
> But the term "emotional abuse" - no.
> 
> Alla:
> 
> You say no, I say yes. Unless you could show to me that your word 
> has more value than mine, I will keep thinking that our opinions 
are 
> of equal validity. Sorry about that.
> 
> JMO,
> 
> Alla.
>