MWPP seriation is there any? WAS Re: James, a paragon of virtue?
M.Clifford
Aisbelmon at hotmail.com
Tue Feb 1 04:37:29 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 123608
> > Carol responds:
> > Um, erm, what? I'm lost. What do you mean by "seriated" and how
does it relate to the Severus/MWPP discussion? And "hapax"????
>
Nora
> A hapax (short for 'hapax legomenon') is something which occurs
only once in a corpus of works and therefore ranges from extremely
> problematic to impossible to evaluate, as you have no models of
> comparison.
>
... edited....
> At present, we do not have an actual series; we have one witnessed
> event, one event that is decidedly (and deliberately, methinks)
> fragmentary, and some scattered comments that never reach the
status of 'event'.
> ..edited...
> Note the "new individual observation". This is what I suspect you
> will find downthread (if you haven't read it already) when I
pointed out that our perception of one event can be strongly
changed by the addition of others. That's seriation at work; one
thing by itself has a lack of proper context. When you get a new
thing, you have to try to fit them together, and so on as you add
more things.
>
Valky:
Thanks Nora, for the detailed explanations. I kind of understood the
meanings of those words from the context that you used them in. And
I agreed mostly with what you said.
Now that you explain it this well, though. I just have one quibble
about it. I still agree that the penseive event is fragmented, like
you have said, but I don't fully agree that the marauders era is
quite so fragmented. Lets take a look at it.
The Marauders Map tells us a lot.... There was a witty intelligent
author among them, and someone quite adept at complex charms, maybe
the same person.
The Animagii is a giveaway that at least one of them was
extraordinarily talented and able to learn the principles of the
transfiguration to a teaching level at a very young age.
The Snitch James played with and Peter's reaction, James reputation
as a Quidditch player, they tend to add up toward a conclusion that
James had remarkably good reflexes.
James Romantic interest in Lily doesn't have much seriation yet, but
it has the potential to add seriation to "James always hated the
Dark Arts" when you compound it with Lily's apparently staunch and
public opposition to social wrongs, and his caring for Remus.
As for Severus, we have experienced time and time again throughout
the books that *nothing* he does is completely revealed without the
seriation. The example I gave earlier of since
Occlumency/Legilimency were given to us in canon, we have had no end
of discovering what Snape was *really* doing in that scene where he
*appeared* to be doing NOTHING at all. So that in itself is a
seriation of Severus Snape that we just can't ignore. The Mudblood
comment, the blood drawing curse, are they just more examples of
Severus standing in the corridor purely observing a petrified Mrs
Norris, Harry and others and saying "nothing" to Dumbledore?
Valky (gotta get the babe from Preschool, but I am keen to discuss
this more)
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