The Mauraders' Generation (long)

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Tue Feb 1 17:05:16 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 123688



--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Lisa (Jennings) Mamula"
<mercy_72476 at y...> wrote:
> 
[snip] 

> Molly & Arthur -- Do the Weasley kids not have any grandparents?

"The Weasleys are the biggest blood traitors of all." How should we
define 'The Weasleys'? Is it the family we know, or a larger, extended
family? Taken to mean the family we know, is it possible that Arthur
has had a disagreement with traditionalist relatives who don't approve
of his egalitarian attitudes? In this scenario, the Weasley
grandparents probably wouldn't acknowledge their grandchildren.

However, now we know who Molly's family is (The Prewetts) and that
they were Order members. Where are Arthur's two brothers who recently
got a mention on JKR's website? Given Arthur's statement about seeing
the Dark Mark over your house and knowing what it means, it would seem
most likely that the Weasley relatives (like the Prewetts) were
casualties of VWI. They would have to be pretty hard-hearted not to
acknowledge the first girl to be born into the family for generations,
after all.

Another possibility. Because, metaphorically speaking, the camera is
on Harry's shoulder we know what he knows, no less, no more and with
very few exceptions. So, possibly Harry isn't particularly interested
in Ron's grandparents, and has never thought to ask - family stuff not
exactly coming naturally to him.

Or it's a technical necessity that JKR doesn't allow us, or Harry, to
have this information, because all Purebloods are related, and Molly,
Arthur and (I am assuming) James Potter are all purebloods, and if
Harry asked too many questions then something would be revealed about
his background that blows the finale. 

My pet theory is that we only know part of the truth about the blood
magic that keeps Harry safe at Privet drive. He is in the care of one
of three adults virtually the whole time - Petunia, Dumbledore or
Molly Weasley and it would not surprise me to find that there is a
hidden relationship between these three people.


> Sirius -- We know they are dead, but how?  Sirius is young; it seems
his  parents would be too young to die of natural causes.Tonks -- So,
her mum Andromeda was Sirius' favorite cousin... Where is she now (and
where is her husband, Ted)??

We know that Sirius and Regulus Black were the offspring of one male
member of the Black line. We also know that he must have had a male
sibling in order to produce three cousins with the surname Black -
Bellatrix, Andromeda and Narcissa (assuming they are first cousins).
Furthermore, we know about Uncle Alphard, who left Sirius a decent bit
of gold when he died, but we don't know if he is a Black, or if he is
the father of Bellatrix etc. 

It is informed speculation to state that anyone who sided with Sirius
in the family politics was unlikely to have raised daughters with the
views of Bellatrix and Narcissa. We do not know if Sirius had any
other Black uncles and aunts, or who their offspring might be. We also
do not know who Mrs Black is (Sirius' mother) but isn't it interesting
how she refers to Grimmauld Place as 'the house of MY fathers'? 

It's a fact that members of The Marauders (at least, the ones that
aren't Wormtail) are referred to as 'embracing like brothers' or
'you'd have thought Potter and Black were brothers'. I just offer this
for completism - almost certainly one of JKR's famous red herrings,
eh?

> Remus -- Any clue there? 

Exactly four canon words - in the shrieking shack, when he's
explaining about being a werewolf, he says: "My parents tried
everything." Thus confirming that he had them, and he knew them, but
that's about it. 

> James -- He was so very young when he died; what happened to his
parents?  Lily & Petunia -- Another mystery.  

I'm firmly in the camp that believes Voldemort killed Mr and Mrs
Potter Sr. They get a couple of canon references - largely in
reference to their kindness to Sirius when he ran away from home. I
think this may have been one of the three times when Lily and James
defied Voldemort - getting through that one without being killed
themselves. I wonder if Voldemort is working his way down the Potter
bloodline, and whether this is connected the fact he is also killing
off all his own known relatives?

One of the most interesting things Petunia ever says comes right at
the beginning of Philosopher's Stone. She refuses to leave Harry alone
while Dudley and gang go to the zoo in case she comes back to find the
house in ruins - just like Godric's Hollow, no? She could be referring
to Lily's fate, or perhaps to some first-hand experience of
Voldemort's methods which explains why she is so frightened when she
hears he is active again.


> Vernon -- Also no mention of parents (that I remember).

No ideas at all. Sorry.  ;- ))










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