Draco and Lucius (was: Harry and starvation)

horridporrid03 horridporrid03 at yahoo.com
Wed Feb 2 04:05:19 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 123707


>>Betsy: 
>Compare that to Draco who in CoS yelled out, "You're next 
Mudbloods!" in a fit of excitement in front of professors, no less, 
(and I believe Dumbledore) after Mrs. Norris was attacked.  Not 
smooth.<
 
>>Pheonixgod: 
>He was twelve. No boy is the soul of tact at the age of twelve. At 
fifteen he was smart enough to see where the wind blows and got on 
the Inquisitorial squad thanks to Umbridge, which was more than HP 
could claim at the same age.<

Betsy:
I'm betting Lucius wouldn't have yelled something like that out.  
Harry certainly knew when to keep his mouth shut at that age (and at 
eleven too).  Plus, Draco still babbling secrets when he's fifteen 
(the Sirius remark).  And I imagine he joined Umbridge's squad 
because she was so obviously against Harry.  (Draco's just a tiny bit 
obsessed.)  And he wasn't very smooth in that squad either.  Umbridge 
didn't seem to trust him anyway.

>>Pheonixgod: 
>Lucius himself is also prone to rashness. Witness his basically spur 
of the moment decison to use the diary against the Weasleys. I'm sure 
there were more efficent uses of a magical diary that contained the 
soul of his lord and master than the torment of a preteen girl.<

Betsy:
Was that rash?  At the beginning of CoS Mr. Weasley has raided his 
home looking for illegal dark items.  By planting the diary on a 
Weasley child, Lucius set up Mr. Weasley for at least a major 
embarrassment that could have curtailed his efforts on the raids, or 
at the most, landed Mr. Weasley (or Ginny) in Azkaban.  

And the only reason the diary got linked back to Lucius was that his 
house-elf turned on him.  Which I believe is a huge rarity in the WW. 
(I also wonder if Lucius was really all that thrilled with the idea 
of Voldemort returning.)

>>Pheonixgod: 
>I think Draco's basic imcompetence will have interesting 
reprecussions, and I do think that Lucius is displeased with is son 
but I think that's more about his spoiled petulant nature than 
anything else.
>I personally see parrallels between Lucius and Draco. But Draco is 
younger, less worldly, and clearly more spoiled than Lucius. At their 
cores however, I think they are mirror images.<

Betsy:
Is Draco spoiled?  I haven't really seen anything that shows it.  
Sure, he told Harry in PS/SS that he was going to bully his parents 
into buying him a broom - but he didn't get one.  And in CoS, in the 
one scene that we see Draco and Lucius interacting together, Lucius 
refuses to buy Draco anything and lists out his failures in front of 
the shop keeper.  I also note that Draco did not have any friends 
with him at the Quiddich World Cup.  Draco can be petulant, and 
emotional, but I'm not sure that he's actually spoiled.

Betsy, who really hopes we see more of Draco in the next book.







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