Jo's Squib error?

Steve bboyminn at yahoo.com
Wed Feb 2 21:55:44 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 123768


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Vivamus" <Vivamus at T...> wrote:
> > Tonks <tonks_op at y...> wrote:
> > 


> 
> Vivamus:
> I think it would be a far greater risk to NOT lie, because there are
> really only two possibilities for the source of those dementors.  
> They either came from LV, or they came from someone at the Ministry. 
> 
> ...edited...
> 
> The only actual lie she said was that squibs could see dementors.  
> (In fact, we don't know for sure that was a lie.  It may be that 
> SOME squibs can see them, even though she cannot.) What she claimed 
> happened was, in fact, exactly what did happen. 
> 
> ..edited...
> 
> Vivamus

bboyminn:

I'm going slightly off the point, but I think this is still relevant.

It seems that everyone, including Harry, doubted Mrs. Figg's physical
desciption of the Dementors, but in the end, it's not her physical
desciption that sways the court; it's he account of the effects and
the events.

Madam Bones even comments that Figg's account of the effects are very
accurate. In addition, when Mrs Figg give her account of the events,
she loses he 'learned by heart' demeanor, the pink flush leaves her
face, and her speech become more articulate and dynamic.

Consider that, a produced corpereal Petronus really doesn't do much in
the absents of a Dementor. The court has already determined that Harry
produced a Patronus, and Figg's description confirms that the Patronus
didn't just wander around looking cute. I make two clear and direct
attacks, and I can't seen any reason why a Patronus would attack
unless there was truly something there to attack.

So, the verdict didn't hinge on whether or not Figg saw the Dementor,
her desciption of the effects were enough to convince the Judges that
she had at least experience the presences of a Dementors. Futher, her
testimony of the actions of the Patronus itself confirmed the presence
of Dementors.

So, her one potential 'little white lie' wasn't the deciding factor.
It was, for the most part, ignored in reaching the verdict.

And finally, I think it might be a fair speculation that some Squibs
can under some circumstances see Dementors. Either Figg and/or
Dumbledore may have been banking on that fact that it can't be proven
one way or the other that Squibs can't see Dementors.

Just a thought.

Steve/bboyminn








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