Support for the ESE Lupin theory!
snow15145
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Wed Feb 2 23:45:42 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 123780
Snow previously:
> <snip>
> If Lupin keeps his mind as long as he has taken his potion the week
> preceding the full moon, why did he attack Sirius after the
Shrieking
> Shack episode? Did Lupin forget to take the potion for the entire
> week before the full moon? This potion sounds like any drug that
> needs to be taken consistently to have the full effect but if one
> dose is missed it doesn't nullify its total effect. So was Lupin in
a
> sound or semi-sound mind even after he transformed? Who notified
> those dementors, again?
Neri:
Your suspicion seems to imply that a prime target of ESE!Lupin is
Sirius. If so, why didn't ESE!Lupin simply went to DD (or even
better, straight to the Ministry) in the beginning of the PoA year
and told them that Black is a dog animagus? The ministry and the
dementors would have then done Lupin's dirty work for him.
Snow:
I thought that question was more-or-less answered already by Lupin in
the Shrieking Shack when he said:
"All this year, I have been battling with myself, wondering whether I
should tell Dumbledore that Sirius was an Animagus. But I didn't do
it. Why?
" POA--Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs
Lupin couldn't very well tell Dumbledore or the Ministry without
betraying Dumbledore's trust as Lupin puts it because he would had to
have admitted that his best friends had become illegal animagus
because of him.
Neri:
If ESE!Lupin doesn't want to admit to DD that as a boy he betrayed
his trust, he can hide from DD the marauders story, and tell him that
Black became an animagus after he had left Hogwarts. Who's to tell DD
otherwise?
Snow:
Exactly, why didn't he tell Dumbledore then? Regardless of which way
you look at the character of Lupin there still exists the reason he
did not tell Dumbledore about Sirius.
northsouth17:
Unless it really needs to be takes *every* night that week, perhaps
especially the night of the transformation. As far as I understood
it, Lupin did not so much forget to take the potion, as ran off to
the shack before Snape had shown up with it. He's just putting the
blame squarely on himself, rather than going "Well, *Snape* hadn't
shown up yet".
Arynn:
I always interprited that quote as meaning he had to take the potion
every day
in the week proceding the full moon. It might be like birth control
pills,
missing even one dose can increase risk of pregnancy. (Oddly enough
the menstral
cycle is tied to the moon as well.)
Snow:
It isn't so much the fact that he forgot one dose of his potion; it
is more the fact that he had been taking the potion for up to a week
preceding the full moon that counts.
As in Arynn's example of birth control pills, if you miss a dose you
increase the chance of becoming pregnant but the effect of the doses
you did take would be more effective, than that one missed dose, to
you not becoming pregnant. In other words the effect of the drug is
not rendered useless because of one missed dose. I see the same
situation with Lupin, he must take the potion one week *prior* to the
full moon, so why was it so important for him to have that one missed
dose on the night of the full moon? Didn't he already take his quota
since the moon is in full the night of the Shrieking Shack incident?
AstroF writes:
It's a great theory, enormous fun to read and hats off to Pippin for
digging up so much compelling evidence! I've not had such a good time
since reading the arguments for ESE!McGonagall, and I'm certainly
prepared to concede there are many ambiguities about Lupin's
character.
But here, quoted from the FAQs of JKR's website is the one thing that
makes it impossible for me to believe:
"Who is your favourite character? I love Harry, Hermione, Ron, Hagrid,
Dumbledore, Ginny, Fred, George and Lupin. I love writing (though
would not necessarily want to meet) Snape."
I don't think EverSoEvil!Lupin would appear on that list - especially
given the way Snape is qualified.
Although I'm sure legions of believers in ESE!Hermione, ESE!Ron,
ESE!Twins and, naturally, ESE!Dumbledore will descend to contradict
me... ; -))
Snow:
If JKR were to have said she either didn't like Lupin or omitted him
from her favorite character list, wouldn't that have made her
audience suspicious? Then again she may like this character with all
his flaws. It is reasonable to accept that a person turned out the
way they did, if you have been given realistic reasons as to why, and
still like him in spite of those flaws.
A hypothetical example would be to have a loving child who grows up
to make less than smart choices because his mother died and he didn't
have proper guidance because his father had to work and so on, would
you hate the child or hate that the child had made the choices he
did? You can still like the person but hate what they have become.
Snow
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