James: Paragon?

a_b_desert_king a_b_desert_king at hotmail.com
Fri Feb 4 00:53:25 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 123856


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Alex boyd" <alex51324 at h...> 
Alex wrote:
> I have one small thing I want to add about the Snape/James 
pensieve scene.  
> I agree that we don't have enough information to develop an 
authoratative 
> reading of this scene; *however*, I can't help thinking it's an 
important 
> clue that James's choice of obnoxious-thing-to-do in this scene is 
to turn 
> Snape upside down, revealing his undergarments....exactly as we 
see the 
> Death Eaters doing at the Quidditch World Cup in GoF.  He easilly 
could have 
> done something else (or, to put it another way, JKR could have 
made him do 
> something else), so the parallel *has* to mean something.   
(Unless it's a 
> Mark Evans, of course, but it's such an important scene that I 
really don't 
> think so.)
> 

Heather:

It has been suggested before that there is a very important parallel 
to these two scenes. Some believe that it is an indicator that Snape 
may have been part of the muggle-baiting at the QWC and that he was 
the one to turn the muggle woman upside down to reveal her under-
drawers.  However, those who believe in ESE:Lupin or ESE:Sirius 
would argue that it could just as easily have been either of those 
two present.  

Another thought is that perhaps LV attempted to kidnap HP at the QWC 
and found there was too much guard on him there.  So he decided to 
have a little fun and stir up the 'free' DEs to see how many would 
respond to a 'spot of muggle baiting'.  This would suggest that 
Wormtail was the person to turn her upside down.  Canon to suggest 
this is only in GoF when reincarnated:LV mentions in his speech to 
his DEs that he thought "...[Harry's] protection might be weaker [at 
the Quiddich World Cup], away from his relations and Dumbledore, but 
I was not yet strong enough to attempt kidnap in the midst of a 
horde of Ministry wizards".

As to what this may portend, I have no idea.  But I too think that 
there must be a connection between the two events.  Maybe in Book 
6...

Heather







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