Voldie's willing executioners: was Re: Support for the ESE Lupin theory (not)

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Fri Feb 4 15:19:41 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 123897


> Neri:
>  
> "Who is your favourite character?
>  
> I love: Harry, Hermione, Ron, Hagrid, Dumbledore, Ginny, Fred, 
> George and Lupin. I love writing (though would not necessarily 
> want to meet) Snape. My favourite new character is Luna 
> Lovegood."

> Neri later:
> Well, Since she pointedly didn't include Snape in this list, 
would it be acceptable reasoning to give Lupin a goodness mark 
slightly higher than that of Snape, as a worst possible scenario?
> 
> 
> Alla:
> 
> LOL, Neri! Pippin, I am honestly not being sarcastic,when I am 
> saying it, but you can count me absolutely confused now too.
> 
> Didn't you say in your previous post that "liking", not "love" can 
> be interpreted any number of ways?
> 
> This quote says that she "loves" Lupin , not likes, loves. Are 
you  saying that it also can be interpreted any number of ways?

Pippin:
Obviously it can. She is not talking about the kind of love which 
demands we have as much compassion for  our enemies as we 
have for our friends, for example. I do think that Snape can be  
evil in a different way than Lupin  or the others in that list could
be if they fell, because I think JKR is writing about two different
kinds of evil. They're both bad, but they  become  much worse 
when they combine. 

There are people who are so stunted that they actually prefer 
being cruel. This is where we find Snape and Voldemort. 
Voldemort, of course, does not care that his instincts are evil; he 
enjoys it.

Snape, IMO, knows he cannot trust his instincts; they have been 
damaged and/or corrupted. His only hope is to follow the rules of 
society and Dumbledore's guidance. IMO he tries to do this, 
though he doesn't always succeed. And  where they fail him , not 
being perfect,  he fails too.

But in each of the books Voldemort has a willing executioner, 
and this person's instincts are *not* stunted. This person does 
evil, not because he prefers it to good, but  because he has 
decided there is  no other acceptable choice. 

In contrast to Voldemort, Quirrell does not *want* to drink unicorn 
blood, but he dares not defy his master.

Ginny didn't *want* to give her soul to the Diary, but she stole it 
back, because she dreaded losing her innocent image --just like 
Lupin in PoA. 

Peter  didn't *want* to betray Lily and James but he dreaded 
losing his life.  

Young Barty seems to have spent seventeen years trying to get 
his father to pay attention to him by being good, before he gave 
up and found someone who would pay attention to him for being 
evil. 

Even Kreacher only wanted to live in peace with his memories. 
Yeah he was a racist toerag. So what? He wouldn't have hurt 
anyone if he'd been left alone.  If he were a senile old  human 
being, would you think it just if  he were robbed of the things he 
loved by someone who had no use for them  and then made to 
live as a slave to the thief? Wouldn't  you rebel? 

If Voldemort, in the guise of someone you trusted, offered you an 
escape from conditions you found intolerable, would you have 
the wisdom to look the gift horse in the mouth?

 Pippin













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