Details, and the unreliable narrator
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Sun Feb 6 15:50:19 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 124055
> > --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Renee"
> > <R.Vink2 at c...> wrote:
> > Does anyone remember details from an
> > earlier book that seemed wrong at the time but suddenly
made sense when viewed in the context of later developments
and revelations? Contradictions resolved over the course of
several books? Apparent mistakes that turned out to be no
such thing?
> > Pippin:
> > Oh yes. Scabbers suddenly falling asleep in PS/SS seemed
> > very contrived to me at the time but made sense once I found
out he's not only a phony rat but a "sleeper" servant of
Voldemort.
>
> Renee:
> Ah, I like this kind of symbolism; thanks for pointing it out! But
this is the same book, isn't it?I was rather looking for examples
of peculiarities or seeming errors in earlier books that are
explained in later books.
Pippin:
Um, I think we have our wires crossed. I was referring to Book
One ch 6 -- Goyle has just thrown Scabbers off, slamming him
into the window and Ron picks up Scabbers by the tail.
"I think he's been knocked out, " Ron said to Harry. He looked
closer at Scabbers. "No --I don't believe it--he's gone back to
sleep."
That didn't make any sense to me at all at the time, and I
remember thinking,'Huh? Oh well, I guess she didn't want
Scabbers to be hurt, it's a children's book, but she still had to get
him 'offstage' some how. ' Little did I know. It's not till Book
Three that we find out Scabbers is a 'sleeper' and not a normal
rat.
Renee:
> However, the best thing would be something looking like a real
flint that turns out to be entirely correct. But I can't think of
anything. <
Pippin:
People wondered before OOP how Dumbledore could have
known so quickly to send Hagrid to Godric's Hollow (which
would indicate he was in on the secret) without knowing who the
real secret keeper was. That was explained in OOP when we
learned the secret didn't have to be transmitted directly.
People are still considering the 'toothbrush' problem, ie why did
Crouch need to use the Tri-wizard cup instead of some more
accessible object. But that too is explained in OOP, though not
everyone is happy with the explanation. Voldemort at the
beginning of GoF discussed two opportunities to abduct Harry.
One was the QWC, the other, though we didn't know it yet, the
TWT. What they have in common is that Harry can be made to
put his hands on an authorized portkey.
What we find out in OOP that makes all this clearer is that
Voldemort planned to keep his return a secret, and that the
ministry has ways of detecting unauthorized portkey spells. "It's
more than our life's worth to set up an unauthorized Portkey."
-Lupin, OOP ch 3
Pippin
who will deal with the other half of Renee's post later
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