Pensive Peeking - & it's Dymanics

[Tonks]

No: HPFGUIDX 124100


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "horridporrid03" 
<horridporrid03 at y...> wrote:
> 
> Betsy:
> "Who wants to see me take off Snivelly's pants?"
> But whether James really did take Snape's pants, Harry never found 
> out.  A hand had closed tight over his upper arm, closed with a 
> pincerlike grip.  Wincing, Harry looked around to see who had hold 
of him, and saw, with a thrill of horror, a fully grown, adult-sized 
> Snape standing right beside him, white with rage.
> "Having fun?"
> (OotP Scholastic hardback p. 649)
> 
> As per Steve's theory (good one by the way, Steve!) Snape, by his 
> presence in the memory by Harry's side, sees exactly what Harry 
sees  at this point.  And I'm quite sure Snape knows precisely what 
point of the memory this is.  Also, I think folks generally start at 
a  beginning of a memory and go through to the end (that's how it 
worked in Dumbledore's pensieve anyway), so Snape would have a 
fairly good  idea of what all Harry has seen.


Tonks:

Ok, I dug out my book. It does not say that Snape was looking in the 
memory with Harry. I think you have to go into the memory to see 
where the peeper was.   Snape grabs Harry and first says "So, been 
enjoying yourself Potter? and after Harry says "no" Snape 
says "Amusing man your father wasn't he?" So Snape assumes that 
Harry has seen at least the part that he did see. But what about the 
rest. We know there is more because it says that Harry never got to 
see what happened next. So again, I am not convinced that Snape 
really knows just how much Harry has seen. There are parts that 
Harry clearly did not see. We do not see them either. But does Snape 
*think* that Harry has seen more than he actually has? I think that 
Snape would have had to put his hand or something in the pensive too 
and he did not. Snape just came in and grabbed Harry. If Harry can't 
see into the pensive without putting his head in it and Snape did 
not touch the pensive how would Snape know if Harry saw all of the 
scene or only part of it.

Tonks_op