What DD knows (was *MY* confusion about the Time Turner)

meltowne meltowne at yahoo.com
Mon Feb 7 16:08:50 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 124121


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at y...> wrote:
> bboyminn: 
> 
> On this last point, I agree with Debbie/elfundeb. I really don't buy
> the idea that all-wise all-knowing Dumbledore had this planned from
> the very beginning. I think Dumbledore is very preceptive and very
> wise; enlightened, but not all-knowing.
> 
> Point of illustration, there are hints that Dumbledore can see 
through
> invisibility cloaks, but I'm not sure that's true. I think, again,
> that he is extremely preceptive and sees tiny details that other
> overlook as being too mundane to notice. Like the sag of the floor
> boards, movement of grass, the presences of body heat, sound of
> breathing, the scuff of a shoe, perhaps minor visual aberrations 
cause
> by the Cloak, etc.... To those who minds are clouded by the mundane,
> these little clues would pass unnoticed, but someone who's mind is
> clear and aware, like Dumbledore's, would certainly pick them up.

That's exactly it.  We know that wizards live among the Muggles.  We 
know from OotP that the back entrance to the ministry is through a 
telephone box, and the entrance to St Mungoes is through the picture 
window of a vacant store, and Muggles don't "notice" Grimauld Place, 
even though it sits directly between 2 muggle houses.  Why don't they 
see these things?  Because they don't make sense to them given the 
information they have, so their brains eliminate the "noise" in their 
vision, and they don't see that which doesn't make sense - much like 
we deal with optical illusions.

Some devices, such as an invisibility cloak change what we see.  
Perhaps there is some risidual effect that wizards could see if they 
were expecting to see someone beneeth a cloak.  In most cases, the 
brain rationalizes what the wizard sees, but Dumbledore knows they 
might be a cloak, so he doesn't rationalize.

Is this really that different from what we see of the boggarts?  They 
make us believe they are something scary, yet if we rationalize that 
they are not that same thing, and visualize something to make them 
less scary (Snape is still Snape, but wearing a dress he is not so 
scary).  Maybe the same applies to Dementors as well. Muggles don't 
see them because the very sight is so horrible their brains won't 
allow them to register what they see.  Wizards can see them because 
while they are horrible, they have ways to deal with them.  While 
Dementors use strong ametion against you (they feed off it), strong 
positive emotion can be used as a weapon against them.  Yet another 
clue that Love is so important.

I'm wondering if we will eventually learn that LV's existence is very 
close to that of a dementor - Are they a race of beings decended from 
someone or something that wanted immotaility at all cost?  







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