Dumbledore the General
phoenixgod2000
jmrazo at hotmail.com
Tue Feb 8 08:22:18 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 124195
> Tonks:
> The most successful in fighting LV, Harry?! Are you forgetting all
> the times that he would have been killed if DD had not arrived on
> the scene??
Dumbledore was quite helpful in that graveyard. Oh, wait...
You are right. Dumbledore has helped a lot on a personal level
because of his level of magical strength. I am speaking on a large
strategic level. The chessboard if you will. And Dumbledore is losing
that battle because because he is playing a reactive war. He's
letting Voldemort make the first move. Being on a defensive footing
is a bad way to fight because it means you can never apply pressure
to your opponent.
Tonks:
>Harry will be the weapon. DD is the general and a good one. DD is
>the one the LV *fears* not Harry Potter.
First of all, Voldemort clearly does fear Harry because he attempted
to kill the lad while he was still in nappies. Thats a sign of fear
if there ever was one.
Secondly Voldemort does fear DD personal ability but Albus has so far
proven he's a fairly bad strategist. Remember, Voldemort was
*winning* the last war. The Potters were running scared. The
longbottoms were running scared. Dumbledore's organization was
compromised by at least one spy. The entire population was terrified
to leave their homes. And that was all underneath the auspices of
the Order of the Phoenix beneath DD leadership. Voldemort came
within a scar's breath of total victory.
I can think of a number of things right off the top of my head that a
private group working outside the auspices of the ministry could do.
1. Potion Master working for enemy--Poison Voldemort. He may not be
able to die but he could have some wicked cramps while Harry kicks
his behind. Alternately, poison his followers, lethally or not to
remove his support.
2. Metamorphmagus--Frame some of the more open death eaters for
crimes in order to tarnish their good name and remove any credibility
they might have. infiltrate the junior death eaters at school by
posing as a student--perhaps turn one or more of the students against
their parents or merely learn hom much of the infestation has taken
root at hogwarts. Probably other idea's I can't think of at midnight.
seems like an amazingly useful ability.
3. The Media. Get out Harry's Story! Don't let the Ministry have all
the airspace to get out their version of the truth. Own the people
and you will have half the battle won. Fight the daily prophet on
their own ground. Fight Fudge in the media and get someone competent
like Madam Bones to run the show.
4. Giant animagus dog. Potential tracker and spy. Trail Lucius to DE
meetings and maybe learn where Voldemort is holding up at for a raid
at a later time. Possible trainer for other potential animagi in the
order.
5. Use outside the system nature of the OOTP to raise hell with the
DE who like to work within the system. Raid their homes. Use
psychological warfare to undermine their morale. Hell, kidnap them
for interrogation purposes-see 6. for more details.
6. Use the lovely Fleur and her charm or perhaps the more intense
charms of her full blooded relatives to turn the male death eaters
into putty. You can't tell that five minutes with a beautiful veela
isn't going to have them singing all they know. And look, no morally
objectionable torture. Neat :)
7. Use the prophecy for your own purposes! The most important thing
of all. Voldemort was lying low the whole year and plotting to get
his hands on it. Why not let information slip about the prophecy
being transported to a more secure location as the bait for a trap.
Force Voldemort into acting openly and most likely lose a few
servants.
8. Use cool banker Weasley to cut off the wealth of Death Eaters if
possible through banking red tape.
9. Train Harry. Get him out of his grief by putting him through an
exhausting magical boot camp along side his friends and start
preparing him for what is going to come.
10. Start laying the ground work for all of the above *early*. DD
knows that Voldemort is going to be back so he should have been
plotting for the past decade and a half. Right now it looks like he's
been flying by the seat of his pants.
Is Dumbledore doing any of these things? No. Are they good ideas that
would work? I think so. Thus my contention that he is a bad
strategist. I thought of these things in about five minutes. He's had
fifteen years.
Tonks:
>DD does not return evil for evil, and Harry will not either. There
>is a far greater power that we have not yet seen in all its glory.
It's not evil to bring guns to a gun fight. It's not evil to fight
with intelligence, using feints, misdirection, and the power of your
public persona. Its not evil to realize that hearts, flowers, and
the song Imagine aren't going to save you from psychotic wizards bent
on world domination and the purification of their race. because this
is a fight between two guerilla groups it is actually easier to win
than if DD was running the ministry
JK is not writing a military story but she is writing a story about a
war. I don't think that its too much to ask that her lightside leader
acts like he's actually been in one before.
All this is of course my opinion
phoenixgod200, who has read the art of war about a thousand times,
and learns something new each time.
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