Jo's Squib error?
justcarol67
justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Thu Feb 10 20:00:39 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 124303
Dungrollin wrote:
> > I'm surprised you take it so seriously, Carol! She never said
squibs *can't* see dementors, she just said the Figgy *didn't* on this
occassion.
>
> > If you check out your OotP, the end of chapter 1: Dudley Demented,
you'll see that Mrs. Figg doesn't even arrive until *well* after the
Dementors have left, so she couldn't have seen them (even if she could
see them, if you see what I mean...). Whether squibs can/can't see
dementors is still an open question.
>
>
> bboyminn added:
>
> Just read that last night, and I agree with you that Figg doesn't
arrive 'on-page' until after the Dementors are gone, but clearly she
arrived 'on-scene' before she arrived 'on-page'.
>
> It was Mrs Figg who brings up the subject of Dementors and mentions
them several times. To my memory, in that scene, Harry never once
mentions Dementors.
>
> So, even though we didn't see Figg, she certainly saw what was going
on, and while JKR has ruled that Figg didn't see the Dementors, it's
clear she felt them and knew what they were. In addtion, she witness
the counter-attack by Harry's Patronus, and as I mentioned before,
there would be no logical reason for a Patronus to attack once, much
less twice, unless there were indeed Dementors to there to attack.
>
> On your main point, I agree; whether or not Mrs Figg, in that one
> circumstance, saw Dementors, does not dictate whether Squibs in
> general are able to see them. <snip>
Actually, guys, your responses makes me happy. I felt that Mrs. Figg
was telling the truth when Madam Bones asked her if Squibs can see
Dementors and she replied, with injured dignity, "Yes, we can!" So
JKR's comment stating that she didn't see the Dementors hit me rather
harder than it should have (rather like a repetition of the Mark Evans
debacle). I do hope that she actually *can* see Dementors, which would
indicate that Squibs are different from Muggles and a step closer to
the magical world for reasons other than their upbringing and
heritage. It gives me hope that Mrs. Figg will be the one who manages
to perform magic "at an advanced age." I've always thought she was a
better candidate to be that person than Petunia, who is canonically a
Muggle. (BTW, dungrollin, I'm sure that Figgy *did* see the Patronus,
which is why she had no qualms about having Harry hold out his wand in
case he needed to perform some minor spell--"May as well be hanged for
a dragon as an egg," or whatever her exact words were--no time now to
look them up.)
Carol, who is using "guys" in the American colloquial sense without
regard to the sex of the persons addressed
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