DD/LV Chess Snape matters, and Endgame scenarios.

[M.Clifford]

No: HPFGUIDX 124391


Valky said earlier:
And I want to know why Snape keeps turning up as a black piece.

Becky
My guess is that this is the role SS is playing. He turns up as a
black piece because of this blocking idea, to `through you off the
scent' sort of idea. ...edit.... I would say that, from
canon, it would seem to render him useless to both sides!

Valky now:
Hmmm but in the metaphorical sense of the game in all instances he 
is appearing to *move* as a Black piece .
I'll try to demonstrate further:
In PS/SS the move made on the King is represented by Quirrel 
advancing on the stone, He advances quickly, through diagon-alley to 
a dead end, a Bishop. 
He takes two more steps to get to the King, once on Halloween and 
then the under the trapdoor climax. (this could mean he has turned 
in to the middle then out towards the ends and the King/Stone has 
been castled early to defend it from him) Dumbledore tempted the 
Bishop closer by moving out of striking range and the Bishop takes 
the bait, "surprise" right into the path of Harry. He is then 
trapped, the Bishop is taken from the board in a surprise backwards 
jump by the DD piece..  

Now as for Snape, the reason I see him as a Black Knight is because 
of the moves we see him make. The Halloween Troll for example:
After the troll is released (Black move), the pieces moving are 
Harry, Ron, Quirrel and Snape. Harry and Ron are both WhitePieces 
moving once each to disarm the situation, which leaves *two black 
moves*. One is Quirrel, so Snapes move should logically therefore be 
a BlackPiece too. (and it certainly doesn't seem to be a move 
instigated by DD) 

Again in COS Lucius, Draco, Snape, Hagrid, Hermione, Ron, Harry we 
have an overload of white pieces here, Lucius moves twice, which 
leaves one more black move to even it out, unless we can imagine a 
ESE!HRH we have to assume that Snape did it, because Draco only 
moves once. 

In POA we have Remus, Sirius, Harry, Hermione, Ron, Snape in the 
climax. Remus is trapped in a bad spot, leaving another overload of 
white pieces moving to distract the attack on Sirius if Snape is a 
white piece. This one *is* the most obvious because Snape is the 
*only* possible visible black piece left moving in the end.

I know I am intimating a fair bit of authority and I apologise for 
that. Breaking the stories up into chess moves is difficult, and 
despite my tone I would welcome corrections. 


Becky:
However, I do believe him to be working for DD and I do believe that
in some way he *will* set the final moves up. ...edit.... It's very 
rarely, if ever, a pawn that does the final damage, but in the case 
of HP we are saying that he will reach the other side to become 
another queen.

Valky now:
Well that is what we may *presume* will happen, yes. But maybe not 
all of us do. 
I don't think 'Harry' will be the pawn that reaches the other side. 
In my mental image of the metaphorical board it is not him who has 
made the most advances forward, but the one who has conquered and 
been bait for most of the Blackpieces attacking the WhiteKing, this 
I believe, might be an indication that Harry is not advancing 
forward as fast as perhaps *another* Pawn.  
 
As I said, I think that Harry is *also* the King, and towards the 
end of the game he (Harry) will realise *someone else* is standing 
right before the eighth square, so will jump in the path of LV!Queen 
thereby allowing the *other* pawn to be crowned. I have a theory who 
this pawn is, actually two of them but I'll get to that later. Harry 
returns from his "death" experience but when he does he is returned 
as the King Piece. LV!Queen is wiped from the board but LV!King 
piece hasn't been taken yet, so it isn't quite over. 

Whizbang:
And what of the Pureblood Supremacist Agenda?
Snape is burning the candle at both ends. Voldemort thinks he's 
spying on Dumbledore for him. Dumbledore believes the opposite is 
true. But who exactly is Snape working for?
...edit.... I think he's playing both sides against the middle and
forwarding his own agenda. Why didn't he report Quirrell to
Dumbledore? Why did Snape threaten Harry with Veritaserum if he's a 
legimens. Didn't he know that Harry wasn't lying?


Valky:
This is the only way I can figure to understand it, Snape is a piece 
on either side. He is a Black Knight *and* he is a White piece (not 
sure about Rook yet but it does seem possible considering he has a 
very 'straight' goal in being in the Whitepiece side, compare with 
the round about sort of reason for his Black piece position)

Insofar as he is putting Harry against LV the WhitePiece!Snape will 
exist (I don't think hes moved all that much yet), insofar as 
pureblood agenda the Blackpiece!Snape will show up.
 
Looking at the times when Snape was more obviously a BlackPiece, in 
COS and POA, there was definitely his own agendas behind them. And 
one of those times the agenda was fairly obviously Pureblood 
supremacy (COS) though his moves were quite shadowy. 

I propose HBP is going to reveal Snapes existence as a Blackpiece 
(Not Just a Spy) quite embarrassingly during a pureblood attack on 
the (BloodTraitor) Weasleys. Snape will be quietly standing in 
position to further his PB agenda through an attack on Molly when 
all of a sudden DD's chess gameplan will put Arthur in striking 
distance of the Purebloodism KingPiece (probably he will uncover a 
ministry secret I bet its Bodes killer but another place and time 
for that much speculation right ;D). Snape will be forced to retreat 
noisily from Molly and we will all be very dissappointed and 
surprised at the reveal of ESE!Snape. {I got this scenario by 
placing the real pieces on a chess-board as I see them at the end of 
OOtP. I, hypothetically, put Bishop!Molly on the right (reuniting 
with Percy) and the rest of the scenario just opened up, so I am 
going with it right now to get your comments.}

About your Veritaserum question, because I have a mental block and 
can't remember where that is, can you point me in the right 
direction please?

Whizbang:
And, my favorite question, why did Molly Weasley harbor a common
garden rat for 12 years?


Valky:
I like your question, but I am pretty sure it doesn't lead to ESE!
Molly. She was a mother of six young boys with a pair of mischeivous 
twin babies to boot. Percy, Bill and Charlie would have been between 
2 and 8 years old at the time, its fairly likely that one (or all) 
of the boys became rather personally attached to Scabbers. A group 
of kids so young can really wear a Mum down to giving in if they are 
determined enough, she might not have liked it at first but enough 
nagging from the boys and Scabbers would eventually become one of 
the family. 

Now why *he* chose the Weasley family I think was possibly for 
anonymity. He was afraid of the post war trials and angry DE's and 
needed to hide. This is all we have to go on. 
I consider the answer to that to be that the Weasleys were such a 
quietly close knit bunch, not a lot of room for visitors especially 
not DE types who would never visit the Blood Traitors anyway, and a 
nice overfilled house and overgrown garden with plenty of cosy 
hiding places. Not to mention the loud Ghost in the attic rattling 
the plumbing to create a distraction for him if he ever needed one. 
Compare and contrast with some options 
we have probably with neat lawns, minimalist decor,  the pop fashion 
kind of things like the Dursleys have, a rat looks much less out of 
place at the Burrow.

Valky, who has bitten off a lot more than she can chew today I 
think.. ;D