Elkins' Draco Malfoy Is Ever So Lame. (But not sympathetic)
M.Clifford
Aisbelmon at hotmail.com
Wed Feb 16 04:32:20 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 124660
> Betsy:
> Draco does express the pure-blood ideology, but he's a child
> parroting his parents' politics. He does hate Hermione (and I can
> understand why) and he uses his ideology to attack her, but it's a
> mere tool in his arsenal. He doesn't hate Hermione *because*
> she's Muggle born. Her blood just gives him a stone to throw.
>
> Alla:
> Twelve year old Ron articulates quite well what "mudblood" means ,
> I think Draco knows what he stands for.
> And I think the fact that Hermione is muggle born is a very
> important reason of why Draco hates her ( although could be not
> the only one)
>
Valky:
I read the down threads and I do lean again to agreeing with Betsy
that Dracos main hatred for Hermione is circumstantial, and not
ideological.
It can be argued that Draco not mentioning any prejudice against
Hermione's blood status before COS is merely a plot point in
relation to the subject not being broached before then, but if
that's the case I find it awkward to understand why Draco would drag
Hermione Granger up in Borgin and Burkes as a defense of his failing
grades.
If he *did* have a personal alignment with the ideology then why
would he think that his father would excuse him for being weaker at
magic than Hermione. A child with a strong alignment to pureblood
supremacy probably wouldn't dream of mentioning it for the pure
shame of the fact.
Lucius forces the shame on Draco after he mentions that Hermione is
doing better and is the *favourite*. He didn't presuppose his
superiority to Hermione before that, Lucius instructed him to
afterward.
Circumstantially Draco follows the prejudice ideology, he fell out
of favour with his father for not embracing it before, so he does it
now, and acts as though he has always done.
The later circumstance in Hogwarts is the first time Hermione gets
actively involved in the Harry v Draco battle IIRC, so again Draco
throws the slander circumstantially, much rather than with
ideological purpose. He doesn't seek out Muggleborns in order to do
it. Draco brings the "mudblood" to a fight, not the fight to the
mudblood.
> Betsy:
> Harry et al think Draco is pure evil, but JKR shows us again and
> again that they are wrong. Just as Hagrid contention that all bad
> wizards are Slytherin has been shown, time and again, to be wrong.
>
> Alla:
>
> Where did JKR show us that Harry was wrong about Draco?
> (Except Draco being a Slytherin heir of course - sorry)
>
>
> I think she is showing us over again and again that Harry is 100%
> correct in his assesment of Draco and even though I think that
> Hagrid contention will definitely be proven wrong, it should by
> the logic of the story, it was not so far.
>
Valky:
hmmm... I think.... that JKR is showing us that Harry is 100% right
about Draco too, but also at the same time we are shown that Harry
is 100% wrong about what that means.
There are a couple of canons that come to mind here.
The first is Dumbledore at the end of PS/SS when he relates to Harry
that his Fathers feud with Snape was *like Harry and Draco*.
This has been brought up in relation to the pensieve debate, a
powerful argument against the contention that Severus just minded
his own business, something from James mad Valky's personal box of
favourites.... Well it goes both ways.
If Snape wasn't minding his own business and James wasn't minding
his either, then we are probably going to find that what Dumbledore
meant there was always going to take a profound twist. What I mean
is that James was "at best", in the pensieve, imposing the will of
his ideology onto Snape. He was painting Snape "All Slytherin" when
since then we have all discovered "he's a little teensie bit Gryff
and quite a bit Ravenclaw", Too Actually.
Snape had other good qualities, and in time he managed to place a
higher value on them than he once had. Snape's wit and his courage
are what gets him through these days, though he still regards pure
ambition highmost, Dumbledore has managed to see him through
choosing some of his other less favoured qualities in defining
himself.
Like with James and Snape, possibly Dumbledore has seen that Harry
is *missing* something with Draco, although he's quite right that
Draco is not such a top bloke, neither Harry nor Draco can see past
the big waving Green and Silver Banner to what else Draco is.
Hagrid, too, was 100% right, but 100% wrong about what that means.
Slytherin House fosters comfortless shallow existence and wizard
children who stay their are nurtured in that mould, but that doesn't
mean that the Slytherin children are necessarily all bad to begin
with.
If choices define what we truly are then good wizards should come
out of Slytherin house, but it would be extremely rare because they
would be against the odds of the choice to be there in the first
place.
If Slytherin nurtures and produces wizards with alignment to a Dark
ontology then choosing it hence is choosing the path to darkness.
And there is the problem with the House division.
OTOH if that Slytherin then afterward chooses to back out of their
first choice then they need to recognise the qualities in themselves
that counterbalance the darkness of Slytherin House. Those qualities
are defined by the other houses. Loyalty, Intelligence and Bravery.
Intelligence is rather neutral so a Slytherin Ravenclaw type
probably would have much hope unless they could drag some latent
*other* quality out of the depths and work with it, which would be
very difficult and painful. Hence we have Severus Snape, who finds
the courage inside him though it's painful to value that when he
*really* prefers intellect and ambition. Nonetheless he becomes a
*good* Slytherin, through his once latent alignment with courage and
loyalty (just in little bits).
Now, it's starting to become fairly obvious, to me anyway, that
Draco chose Slytherin for wrong reasons and might find he would
rather back out eventually. The first reason he gives in Madam
Malkins, is that he *expects* to be put there. What he is really
saying, though, is that his Father expects him to be put their and
through some large amount of loyalty to, and admiration of, his
father, rather than Slytherin itself, he agrees.
Further through the series we see Draco floating between a love of
power and a dedication to impressing and pleasing his father. So in
total we see Draco as more of a Slytherin-Hufflepuff type.
*Pure* evil, probably not, but Slytherin Bad definitely yes.
The difference between Harry and Draco v James and Snape, is Lily.
Harry, like Lily, will eventually wonder why he sees Draco the same
way James saw Snape, and because he exists just won't fix it for
him. Harry will decide that it's not *funny* that Draco is a
hopeless lost cause steeped in black ideology. He'll probably see
the damage that it's done (Hagrid, Slytherin Heir, I.S. etc) for
what it is, a gross exaggeration of the significance of two
*childrens* first impressions.
The prank, I think, could be a similar foreshadowing of things to
come between Harry and Draco. If only we knew what really
happened ....
Valky
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