Dementor's Nature (Re: Dementors and the MoM)

meltowne meltowne at yahoo.com
Thu Feb 17 15:26:51 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 124744


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Tonks" <tonks_op at y...> wrote:
> Tonks here:
> 
> If LV is Tom Riddle's past, present, future, I would have to guess 
> that LV is not human but an evil entity of some sort. This entity 
is 
> something that has existed before the lifetime of Tom Riddle and 
> continues on after Tom is gone. I think that perhaps LV is no 
longer 
> Tom and what happened at GH was that Tom was destroyed but the 
> essence of the evil that bonded with him did not.  Now LV can takes 
> human form when invited into the body of the human host. Perhaps he 
> can not take over someone that has not asked him to enter.  LV 
tried 
> to possess Harry without permission and could not.  LV possessed 
Tom 
> Riddle with permission. (This would be consistant with XC theology 
> of possession.) 

I like this theory, and it works well with what I thin as well.  
Dumbledore defeated Grindewald, who was considered the last Dark 
Lord, but perhaps Dumbledore just defeated that manifestation - the 
last person this entity took over.

We know LV tried to possess Quirrel in book 1, but he was not 
adequate for what LV wanted to do - I don't think Quirrel was truly 
evil, and did not allow LV complete control.  Given that some have 
innate magical ability and othes do not, I would assume he needs a 
body with innate magical ability, so must take over such a person.  
The stronger the magic, the better, but a stronger witch or wizard 
would also be more capable of resisting.  The reason Tom Riddle 
worked was that Tom wanted what LV wanted, so would not fight in any 
way.

We see a limited form of this possession in Book 2, when Tom Riddle's 
spirit (or part of it) possesses Ginny.

I believe Harry's destiny is to battle the current Dark Lord in th 
form of Voldemort.  I also believe that he is supposed to do so as an 
adult.  LV tried to force the issue and bring about the battle when 
Harry was a baby, that he might gain an advantage.  It failed, but 
only the body was destroyed.

I do believe he is far more like the Dementors than human.  We all 
know of people who are so deranged they get pleasure out of harming 
other people or animals, which is what the Dementors appear to be - 
they are just so far down that path they are no longer human at all.

At the end of OoTP, Dumbledore reiterates to LV that there is 
something far worse than death - and I suspect it is something along 
the lines of the kiss.  I suspect further that maybe the dementors 
are sould similar in some ways to ghosts, except that they ended up 
in that situation due to no choice of their own - perhaps that is how 
they "breed" - the newly sucked souls become new dementors.







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