Theory of Liberation, heading OT

cat_kind cat_kind at yahoo.com
Fri Feb 18 16:58:32 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 124797


Hans Andrea:
> I know we SEEM to be wondering off topic here, but in actual fact
this area
> of discussion is extremely relevant to Harry Potter because we?re
talking
> about the very foundation of Harry Potter now. I?m asserting that Harry
> Potter and the New Testament have been inspired in the same way by
the same
> archetypal Path. It doesn?t matter HOW Jo is getting the story, the
point is
> it?s the same universal, timeless message as the New Testament, the
story of
> the Buddha, Lao Tzu, Zoroaster, the Alchemical Wedding, and dozens of
> others. The whole point of my posts is to show you how similar Harry
Potter
> is to that universal timeless message, which in my words I call
Liberation.
> I like to add the word ?alchemical? because that is a new concept
added in
> by the Rosicrucians a few centuries ago and obviously being used by Jo
> herself.
> ***
> Just to emphatically clarify this once and for all: my theory is not
that
> the Path of Liberation is true, but that Harry Potter is a
revelation OF the
> Path, irrespective of whether the Path actually does what it claims.***
> 
> Now obviously I believe in the Path, otherwise I wouldn?t be talking
about
> it, but that?s NOT what I?m discussing. Obviously Jo believes in the
Path,
> but that?s NOT what I?m discussing. I?m only discussing the matrix
on which
> the story and characters in Harry Potter are based, and showing you how
> similar Harry Potter is to it.
> 

catkind:  Okay, now we're getting somewhere. So Hans believes that
lots of different myths/religions contain analogies to a "Path of
Liberation", and that the HP books do too.  Possibly even that said
myths/ religions/ HP books are inspired by this Path, whether at a
subconscious level, or deliberately by the authors, or by divine
inspiration.  
Maybe I, for one, am getting confused because Hans is at the same time
explaining this Path with reference to the other mythic/religious
analogies and with respect to the Harry Potter story. 

Hans - is there somewhere I can look up a description of this Path
without all the similes? It'd be particularly helpful to have a
glossary of what if anything you mean by things like alchemical,
etheric, astral, microcosmic etc., which you don't seem to be using in
the traditional sense.

Or is this Path something that is only defined as an accumulation of
all these myths? 
I'd have thought it's not much use to have a John the Baptist-parallel
in HP if you don't already have a JtB-parallel in the Path of
Liberation. It would probably offend the Christians present less if we
skip the Christianity/Path analogies and go straight to the Path/HP
ones. In any case, if you want to show that HP is inspired by the Path
and not by, say, Christianity, you'd have to find places where the the
Path matches Harry Potter /better/ than it matches Christianity or
other traditions.  This is never going to work if the parallels are
drawn through Christianity.

Then another question:  Why get so excited about it all?  If as Hans
says the Path has analogies in all these many myths/religions, and
then presumably in all the other stories which are inspired by said
myths/religions, then yet another series with the same analogies is
hardly something to write home about. New religions get started when
there is a new message, not when the same old message is repeated in a
new medium.  

catkind







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