De-bunking Count Snape

koinonia02 Koinonia2 at hotmail.com
Tue Feb 22 14:52:27 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 124998


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Message 124952 

Freud:
 
 
> Voldemort is kinda like a vampire though.  He drinks blood.  He 
> drinks snake venom.  But I don't see any "Voldemort is a vamp" 
> theories out there. 


"K":

Voldemort having vampire-like qualities has been discussed. I 
personally believe he is part-vampire along with who knows what else.

Here is a list of where vampires are mentioned in the books. I won't 
claim it is a complete list as I may have missed some. Keep in mind 
there could be other hints about vampires without that specific word 
being used.

~*SORCERER'S STONE*~

CH 4

SECOND YEAR STUDENTS WILL REQUIRE:
Voyages with Vampires by Gilderoy Lockhart
pg 44


CH 5

I've g-got to p-pick up a new b-book on vampires, m-myself." He 
(Professor Quirrell) looked terrified at the very thought.
pg 70

They say he (Professor Quirrell) met vampires in the Black Forest...
pg 71

Vampires? Hags? Harry's head was swimming.
pg 71

His (Professor Quirrell) classroom smelled strongly of garlic, which 
everyone said was to ward off a vampire he'd met in Romania and was 
afraid would be coming back to get him one of these days.
pg 134

~*CHAMBER OF SECRETS*~
US Version


CH 6

Harry and Ron sat down at the Gryffindor table next to Hermione, who 
had her copy of Voyages with Vampires propped open against a milk 
jug.
pg 86

Hermione closed Voyages with Vampires and looked down at the top of 
Ron's head.
pg 88

Hermione sat down on a stone step and buried her nose in Voyages 
with Vampires again.
pg 96

Ron whipped out his Spellotaped wand, but Hermione shut Voyages with 
Vampires with a snap and whispered, "Look out!"
pg 97

...and a vampire who had been unable to eat anything except lettuce 
since Lockhart had dealt with him.
pg 161

~*PRISONER OF AZKABAN~*
UK Version

CH 3

Harry had never met a vampire, but he had seen pictures of them in 
his Defence Against the Dark Arts (DADA) classes, and Black, with 
his waxy white skin, looked just like one.
pg 34

CH 10

...examining a tray of blood-flavoured lollipops...'Urgh, no, Harry 
won't want one of those, they're for vampires, I expect, ' Hermione 
was saying.
pg 147

CH 14

'Er - not now - I was going to go to the library and do that vampire 
essay for Lupin-'
pg 204

'Harry, Ron, come with me, I need a word about my vampire essay. 
Excuse us, Severus.'
pg 213


Ch 22

'Wonder what they'll give us next year?' said Seamus Finnigan
gloomily.

"Maybe a vampire,' suggested Dean Thomas hopefully.
pg 313


~*GOBLET OF FIRE*~
US Version

CH 9

"but I'm a vampire hunter. I've killed about nine so far____'.
pg 126

CH 10

"Last week she was saying we're wasting our time quibbling about 
cauldron thickness, when we should be stamping out vampires! As if 
it wasn't specifically stated in paragraph twelve of the Guidelines 
for theTreatment of Non-Wizard Part-Human ---(Percy)
pg 147


~*ORDER OF THE PHOENIX*~
US Version

CH 20

"Ran inter a couple o' mad trolls on the Polish border, an' I had a 
sligh' disagreement with a vampire in a pub in Minsk..."
pg 426


CH 31

He was finding it very difficult to remember names and kept 
confusing dates. He simply skipped question four: In your opinion, 
did wand legislation contribute to, or lead to better control of, 
goblin riots of the eighteenth century? thinking that he would go 
back to it if he had time at the end. He had a stab at question 
five: How was the Statue of Secrecy breached in 1749 and what 
measures were introduced to prevent a recurrence? but had a nagging 
suspicion that
he had missed several important points. He had a feeling vampires 
had come into the story somewhere...
pg 725/us


FB

The centaurs objected to some of the creatures with whom they were 
asked to share "being" status, such as hags and vampires...
FB/xiii

QTTA

Translyvania has been mentioned. QTTA mentions a Quidditch team from 
Translyvania and vampire bats.

~~The final between Transylvania and Flanders has gone down in 
history as the most violent of all time and many of the fouls then 
recorded had never been seen before-for instance, the 
transfiguration of a Chaser into a polecat, the attempted 
decapitation of a Keeper with a broadsword, and the release, from 
under the robes of the Translyvanian Captain, of a hundred blood- 
sucking vampire bats. pg 40~~

In short:

SS

There are books on vampires. pg 70
Vampires are in the Black Forest. pg 71
The kids believe garlic will ward off vampires. pg 134

COS

They are studied. pg 44
Hermione seems to enjoy reading about them. pgs 86,88,96,97

POA

They are studied in the Dark Arts class. pg 34
They have waxy, white skin. pg 34
Kids know there are vampires around. pg 319

GOF

There are vampire hunters and some believe it is a noble job.
pgs 125-126
Some believe vampires should be stamped out. pg 147

OOP

A vampires was in a pub. pg 426
A vampire was in Minsk. pg 426
Vampires were on the O.W.L. test. pg 725

FB

Centaurs object to them. FB/xiii
____________________________________________________

The word 'vampire' is not actually used here but there is a 
reference to garlic being used to ward off Harry.

...George pretended to ward Harry off with a large clove of garlic 
when they met.
ss/pg 210



"K":

I believe there's a bit of Voldemort that does live inside Harry and 
the above could be just another clue. Of course with Voldy being a 
combination of whatever immortality experiments he used, a little 
garlic isn't going to do anything to him. But it can be a clue from 
the author.

...George pretended to ward Harry (Voldy-thing inside Harry) with a 
large clove of garlic when they met.











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