Some Sybil questions (or questions on the Sybil...)

[hickengruendler]

No: HPFGUIDX 125044


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "potioncat" <willsonkmom at m...> 
wrote:
 
> 
> Potioncat:
> Well, he was caught, but then again, he wasn't..
> 
> chp 37 OoP, DD speaking
> "...I had not dreamed...I would hear anything worth overhearing. My-
-
> our--one stroke of good fortune was that the eavesdropper was 
> detected only a short way into the prophecy and thrown from the 
> building."
> 
> I don't think I did a very good job of making my point in my 
earlier 
> post, so I'll try again.  Notice, JKR does not tell us who the 
> eavesdropper is, although I assume DD knows. Nor does she tell us 
if 
> the person was thrown out for eavesdropping or for some other 
reason.
> 
> It sounds at first read, as if someone saw a person easvesdropping 
> and threw him out for eavesdropping. But, if the offense was 
> eavesdropping, wouldn't he have been held until DD could talk to 
him? 
> We've been told, DD didn't expect to hear anything important, so it 
> doesn't seem he told anyone to watch out for eavesdroppers.
> 
> It was a stroke of good fortune, it was luck, it was a coincidence. 
> No, I think a person (either as a person or as an animal) was 
> listening, but appeared to be doing something else. I think he was 
> seen, and tossed out. He was tossed out because the owner didn't 
want 
> him around. Maybe he was a known werewolf or a part vampire, or 
> smelled of tobacco, or appeared as a rodent or a stray dog. Who 
knows?
> 
> It also isn't clear when DD learned about an eavesdropper. He may 
not 
> have known until later, when word got back to him that LV knew 
about 
> a prophecy. And he may not have known until after GH who the 
> eavesdropper was. 
> 
> So, to review, I don't think Eavesdropper was seen, tossed out, and 
> the incident immediately reported to DD. "Well, sir, I tossed him 
> out just when the lady got to the part about marking the child..." 
> And if it was one of the Marauders, I don't think DD knew it until 
it 
> was too late.
> Potioncat

Hickengruendler:

Yeah, I see what you mean, and I guess it is possible. But I don't 
think it's very likely, it doesn't really convince me. For example, 
Dumbledore was in Sybill's room when she made the prophecy. Therefore 
I suppose the spy listened on the door. And even if it was not the 
direct reason for throwing him out, I would assume that if Aberforth 
caught somebody spying on his brother, he would have told Albus. 
Especially because Albus is the leader in the fight against the most 
dangerous dark wizard. And at least after Dumbledore learned that 
Voldemort was after the Potters, he should have suspected the person 
who spied on him and mentioned it in front of James and Lily. It just 
seems too much of a stretch for me if Peter were the spy.

Personally, I think Snape was the one who spied on Dumbledore, and 
that's why Dumbledore didn't tell Harry the spy's name, because he 
wants them to work together and knows that Harry would hate Snape 
even more if he found out. Then something happened that made Snape 
changing sides, and he was also the one who tried to warn Dumbledore 
and the Potters that Voldemort was after them. Therefore Snape is 
both partly responsible for the Potter's death, but also somebody who 
wanted to save them.

Hickengruendler