Resolving (?) the Riddle

[naamagatus]

No: HPFGUIDX 125129


Replying to Renee and Tonks here.


Renee:
If you replace 'dark Christ' by anti-Christ, we would have a
reference to the Apocalyps - another indication that the HP series
is meant to be a piece of Christian literature about the ultimate
battle between Good&Evil and Light&Darkness, and that Harry is a
Christ figure. (I'm sure his family name, Potter, has come along
repeatedly as a reference to God.) The old cosmic drama disguised as
a book about a magical schoolboy.

Naama:
The thing is, Harry really isn't a Christ figure. I have thought long 
about this <sounds of everybody thinking "get a life">. Harry, in my 
understanding, is Everyman. The closest thing to a (good) Christ 
figure that we have is Dumbledore. His name, his being, the 
connection/identification with the phoenix - he is, if not Christ, 
the personification of Light and morality. 


Tonk:
Steve and I were discussing DD and LV a few weeks ago. I think that
we concluded that DD doesn't try to kill LV because LV takes
possession of any person that AK's him. LV survives because he
possesses others. Steve said that at GH, since LV was the one to
use the curse and it rebounded to kill him that he had no other body
to possess and therefore became *mist*. I think your theory can
also fit with this concept.

Naama:
It's a neat idea. My only reservation is that Voldemort tells the DEs 
what happened to him in chronological order. ASFAIR, he tells about 
the attack and the rebounded curse, that he found that he had 
survived, fled from the Aurors, forced himself to exist, and only 
then realizing that he could still possess and actually doing it. I 
know that it doesn't absolutely mean that these things actually 
happened in rigid order, but still...


Tonks:
If someone wrongs you and you take revenge, things often go from bad 
to worse. Whereas, if you respond in a loving way it can neutralize 
some of the evil.

<snip>

Is there any quantum physics, string theory or
whatever that would have any bearing on the concept of what you give
out comes back stronger? Or types of energy neutralizing each other?
I know that some say that the energy of Love is a higher frequency
energy and that evil is a weaker lower frequency. That is what
philosophy says. What would science say?


Naama:

I am, frankly, not a fan of this type of belief. My own, very common 
sense, belief is that love/hate/feelings/attitudes/thoughts impact 
the world only through the agent's actions (making your child feel 
loved is the closest thing to an unmediated effect, but it is still 
mediated through actions, expression, words, tone of voice, look in 
the eyes, etc.). 

In any case, the question here is, does it apply to the books?. Does 
love/hate have an unmediated effect in the Pottervers? And the answer 
is 'no'. Lily's protection is the closest thing to that, but even 
there, the sacrifice triggers 'ancient magic', which causes the 
protection. 

It's interesting, in fact, to look at some of the situations JKR puts 
Harry in as opportunities for his internal emotions/qualities to have 
direct impact on outcome. E.g., the possession. Because Voldemort was 
*inside* Harry, the love Harry has could expell him directly (without 
magics). And, by having their wands link, Harry could overcome 
Voldemort through a direct contest of wills. 

Tonks <quoted out of order>:

I think that when a person makes the choice to do an act of evil, 
such as an unforgivable curse, they are giving LV more power.

Naama:

I have one main problem with this: it makes Voldemort the cosmic 
force of Evil, the Devil himself, and I think that it's important for 
the story that we never lose sight that Voldemort is, ultimately, 
human. (This is underlined by DD addresses him as Tom.)



Naama