Where does it say that Molly is a pureblood fanatic???

[M.Clifford]

No: HPFGUIDX 125223


Valky wrote:
>Molly comes from a purebloodist wizard family 
>
> Janet:
> I am the first person to admit that Molly gets on my nerves 
> sometimes, but I definitely disagree with the people who have 
> suggested that her family believed in the doctrine of pure blood, 
> let alone that she herself does.
> 
> On the contrary, we know that:
> 1)Molly's brothers, the Prewitts, were *killed* by Voldemort et al 
> during the first Voldemort War.  If they were in agreement with 
> him, why would they have been killed?


Valky:

In OOtP Sirius tells Harry:
The pure-blood families are all interrelated,' said Sirius. If 
you're only going to let your sons and daughters marry pure-bloods 
your choice is very limited; there are hardly any of us left. Molly 
and I are cousins by marriage and Arthur's something like my second 
cousin once removed.

This means that Molly and Arthur were related to the Black family, 
individually, not by their own marriage. For Molly to be a cousin by 
marriage as an individual means that she and Sirius share the same 
Grandparents, by Marriage, it could only mean that either Sirius or 
Molly married the others first cousin or possibly Sirius is Molly's 
second cousin. Assuming Sirius was never married and knowing that 
Molly married Arthur (not Sirius' first cousin) then it must be the 
other slightly possible answer.
Molly is the older generation cousin which would mean that Sirius 
Mother or Father married Mollys' first cousin. 
Now looking at Lexicon- 
http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizards/black-family-tree-image.html
we should rule out that it was MR Black because that would make 
Molly and Arthurs relationship too icky for words. So lets assume 
that Molly is a relative on MRS Blacks side, and therefore likely to 
have been in-law kin to the dear Araminta who tried to push a bill 
for Muggle hunting, and cousin to the daughters and grandaughters of 
lovely Elladora, who was into House-elf beheading. Come to think of 
it... maybe that's why there isn't a Weasley House-elf.. ;D
So yeah, I think regardless of that she may have been in some good 
company with Gideon and Fabian, her elder female counterparts were 
reeeeaaally not nice people.

> 
> Janet:
> 2)  Ron calls Salazar Slytherin a "twisted old loony" for his 
beliefs, and says that if wizards hadn't married muggles they would 
have died out.  
>

Valky:
Ahhh but twisted old loony is so ambiguous, it could mean that Ron 
has been taught by Molly not to believe in purebloodism or any thing 
of its nature, or it could mean Molly taught him that Slytherin was 
a psychopath without regards to what he *said* he believed.
Actually the latter is quite likely. Calling someone twisted, to me, 
indicates that you think they didn't understand what they stood for, 
themselves. If you mean to say they were wrong and stupid you use 
words like wrong and stupid. When you use words like twisted you 
*mean* twisted: 
www.dictionary.com
Twisted.
To alter or distort the intended meaning of;  
To alter or distort the mental, moral, or emotional character of; 

Ron also shows irrational behaviour towards Hagrid and Remus when he 
finds out they are half-"monster", someone taught him that too. It 
wasn't Arthur.


> 3)  Molly invites Hermione to the Burrow, .... edit.... If Molly 
> were really such a bigot, she wouldn't want Hermione around, 
> and even if she put up with her, it would be easy to tell -- do 
> you think Mundungus Fletcher is in any doubt as to whether or not 
> Molly likes him?
> 

Valky:
But I never meant that Molly was *such a bigot*. What I meant was 
that Molly draws the line somewhere different. To Molly, theres not 
so much a problem with being proud of ones heritage (she is proud of 
her heritage and kind it's *them* that rebuke *her*) the problem is 
that it has gone beyond pride when people like Voldemort and Salazar 
start taking their fancy of carnage and chaos. Molly's stance 
against purebloodism is *not* so much civil or political as it is 
military, in her heart of hearts she might be willing to do whatever 
shes told to get back in the good graces of her purebloodist 
relatives and community, that is why she believes Rita Skeeter, and 
follows MR Fake Lockheart, because she longs to fit in again she 
longs to refocus her energies on giving her little den privilege and 
good standing in the community. 

She knows (darn it says Molly) that Arthur is doing "the best thing" 
in backing Dumbledore, but she can't help but wonder if it all would 
just be easier if they just dropped it all and made nice with 
pureblood wizardkind.

I'm not saying she would abandon the fight against Voldemort, no not 
at all, but the fight against bigotry itself, well it's worth it but 
then again it's so awful to struggle and have nothing. She is a 
mother after all.

To Molly Muggles are nice enough people, but she is all wizardkind 
through and through - muggles just can't fill the void left by the 
kin that reject her. Strictly politically and fancifully she will 
choose the wizards (even the purebloodists) over muggles, if it 
gives her a moment with her own kind in pleasantry. 
Again I stress she knows which is the good side in the war, and she 
is there 100% all personal battles aside.

What I am saying is that Molly is not a bigot but she's not all 
passionately tolerant either, because she loves her own kind with a 
bit of nepotism.


> Janet:
> 4) If Molly's family had been pureblood believers, or sympathized 
> with the aims of Voldemort, Lucius Malfoy would probably have said 
> so.  His remarks sound as if he views the Weasley family as a 
> monolithic entity supporting all that he hates and rejecting all 
> that he stands for.
> 

Valky:
Well no, I don't think Lucius' bigotry or any WW bigotry works that 
way. Andromeda, it seems was not forgiven her association with 
the "damned" with any regard to what shes done in the past. Nor 
anyone on the tapestry for that matter. And Mollys attitude to 
watching *every* fine detail does go to suggest that no, not even a 
pure pure perfect pureblood is going to be forgiven one slip up to 
the creed. Once you're associated with the dirty blood you're out, 
you're them that's it.

> Janet:
> In short, being called a "blood traitor" by people like Mrs. Black 
and Lucius Malfoy can only be to the credit of Molly as well as to 
her family.
>

Valky:
Yeah, it is. But Molly is not in credit anywhere. She has to shop 
and live among swarms of Mrs Blacks. 12 Grimmauld Place was the 
first time *we and Harry got to see what Molly lives with EVERY DAY.
 

Janet:
> Oh, and I read the remark about "swarming with muggles" as about 
as bigoted  as complaining about traffic jams and long lines.
> 

Valky:
Well, actually complaining about traffic jams and long lines is a 
bit akin to bigotry. Think about it.