Molly sees herself as blood traitor? (was: Mother Molly (was: Some OOTP Qs))

[M.Clifford]

No: HPFGUIDX 125260


Valky:
> She was raised by purebloodists, and married into a pureblood
> family and not once did she consider that she would ever be
> outcast for her love of Arthur. ... she was thought she had
> pleased *everyone*.
>
> But not so, because she had become a traitor to pureblood.
>
> In OOtP when Sirius shows Harry the tapestry, and all the
> burnholes where names used to be, I admit having the presumption
> that the silly old bag hadn't *hurt* anyone by it. I was wrong.
> <snip> Mrs Black wasn't a harmless old biddy trying to make a
> foolish point, she really did break hearts in her family with her
> maliciousness, and Molly is our proof.
>


SSSusan:
Valky, I'm curious where you are getting this info that Molly was
raised with all this. Do we *know* the mentality of her parents or
upon what message she was raised? Do we *know* she classes herself
as a blood traitor? Or are you assuming she was raised this way
because almost all pure-blooded families "surely" raise their
children this way?

It feels like a pretty big leap to me, but maybe I'm missing
something.


Valky:

Hi SSSusan, I got to this conclusion by some logical deduction about 
Sirius' claimed relationship to Molly.
I wrote it all in this post:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/125223
Frankly this stuff gives me more of a headache than time-turning 
ever could, but the basic premise is that Molly is a first cousin by 
marriage on MRS Blacks side, leaving her with Elladora and Araminta 
as probably and Aunt and a Grandmother, and Mrs Black quite probably 
as a older cousin-like relative.
Janet made the point that Fabian and Gideon Prewett were good Order 
folk and I agree, but there is a point to note in that Molly's elder 
*female* relatives were the likes of these nasty folk. The leap is 
necessary since Arthur is a blood relation to Sirius on MR Blacks 
side, and its fairly obvious after that that the *women* that Molly 
knew and loved *included* MRS Black. 
I can't say that I *know* who Molly's parents were, but after I 
landed upon the premise that Molly and MRS Black were kin, some of 
Mollys actions in 12 Grimmauld place suddenly began to make more 
sense.

You also asked if we can *know* that she classes herself a Blood 
Traitor. I must have been misunderstood because I wasn't trying to 
make a point that she did. 

OK trying not to confuse anyone further.... Molly is *not* a 
purebloodist and *not* a fanatic. I have never meant to imply that 
in any way. She doesn't believe, in herself, that she is a Blood 
Traitor, but she hates being isolated from her kind because of it. 
Molly was raised into a culture of proud wizardkind, she does lean 
to the traditions and hallmarks of that culture, she does prefer 
being immersed in the society of wizardkind. It is *Arthur* who 
loves muggles, and Molly simply finds no fault with them, she just 
loves WizardKind most of all and has some stock in the basis of 
purebloodism which is unity of the kind and pride in what they are. 
Beyond simple matters of pride in ones heritage, Molly thinks that 
the purebloodism mentality is destructive and horrible. 

This is all what I meant when I said...
> After all, she was raised believing Pure Wizard blood *is* 
superior....

I can see now that it was far too ambiguous, sorry. I hope I have 
clarified it a bit more.

Valy