Draco = Evil?(was: Elkins' Draco Malfoy Is Ever So Lame. )
dumbledore11214
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Sun Feb 27 04:25:17 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 125268
SSSusan:
Perhaps we see the Dementor stunt differently then, Magda. I saw
that as definitely akin to levitating someone upside down.
<snip>
> >...I saw it that [Draco] was attempting to cause Harry to faint
and fall from his broom.<
Betsy:
But as the children of Hogwarts would be well aware of, it's the
*presence* of a Dementor that brings about the effect. Harry faints
in reaction to what the Dementor *does* to him. He doesn't faint at
the thought of one. Draco implies that Harry faints because he is a
coward, but I believe that Draco knows that it's actually how Harry
is *effected* by Dementors that causes him to faint. Especially
since Draco knows personally the difference between the *idea* of a
> Dementor and the actual *presence* of a Dementor. (As per the
twins,
> Draco was effected on the train by the Dementors, himself.)
Alla:
Why children of Hogwarts would necessarily be well aware of what in
the Dementor brings about the effect?
It seemed to me that even Weasleys knew only because Arthur met
Dementors when he went to Azkaban on business.
Dementors are not necessarily the creatures about which parents
would want to tell bedtime stories to their kids. :)
It seemed to me that many kids
had no idea what dementors are when Dumbledore gave his speech about
being careful, since he explains the danger in details, not just
says " Dementors. Beware. " :o)
" and while they are with us, I must make it plain that nobody is to
leave school without permission. Dementors are not to be fooled by
tricks or disguises - or even Invisibility cloaks," he added
blandly, and Harry and Ron glanced at each other. " It is not in the
nature of a dementor to understand pleading or excuses" - POA,
paperback, p.92, amer.ed
I argued in my earlier post I think that Draco thinks exactly that -
that Harry fainted because he SAW Drementor and actually per twins'
words I am not exactly sure whether Draco even had time to FEEL the
real effects of the Dementor. It seems to me he run away really fast
as soon as he SAW Dementor.
Here is what George says:
"That little git," he said calmly. "He wasn't so cocky last night
when the dementors were down at our end of the train. Came running
into our compartment, din't he, Fred?"
"Nearly wet himself," said Fred, with a contemptuous glance at
malfoy - PoA, p.97, paperback.
It makes perfect sense to me that Draco would think that Harry
fainted because of how Dementor looks.
Betsy:
Which is a really long and complicated way of saying that I think
Draco's goal (and Flint's who was also involved, IIRC) wasn't
necessarily to have Harry fall off his broom, but to throw him off
his game and keep him from grabbing the Snitch. Not a decent goal,
no, but not a murdereous one, either.
Alla:
Betsy, I think you threw me off my track again. Sorry! Could you
please explain to me what exactly Draco expected to happen when
Harry saw the dementor? I'd say - " faint" will be a reasonable
answer, don't you agree?
Are you saying that Draco expected Harry still be in the air when he
faints?
What exactly do you mean by "throw him off his game"? Like provide a
small distraction? But Draco KNOWS that dementors are really BIG
distraction for Harry.
Personally I have no doubt that AT VERY LEAST Draco intended to
injury Harry and injury him badly. So, if by "throw him off his
game" you meant make it impossible for him to play for quite some
time, I'd agree with you. :)
Just my opinion of course,
Alla
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