When does a war begin?

[Renee]

No: HPFGUIDX 120948


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...> 
wrote:
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> > Renee:
> > Marietta got the same information from DD as the other 
> students did  about what happened at the end of the Triwizard 
> Tournament. <
> 
> Pippin:
> Even Harry could not tell that Voldemort was back from public 
> information. Fudge and Dumbledore had been allies up to the 
> end of Year Four, then each accused the other of having 
> deteriorated. Given that people can deteriorate, how was anyone 
> to know who was right? Harry himself didn't give absolute trust to 
> Dumbledore in OOP, so why should anyone else?

Renee:
I wasn't referring to public information, I was referring to what DD 
told the students. That's not the same. As for having absolute trust 
in Dumbledore: what I've read so far makes me doubt he's worth 
anyone's absolute trust, regardless of the intentions of the author. 
But what I was arguing in my previous post was that according to DD 
himself (COS), it was his loyalty to DD that saved Harry, through 
the intervention of Fawkes. To me, this suggests that JKR presents 
loyalty to DD as some kind of standard by which to judge the various 
characters' actions, a kind of moral compass. If this is the case, 
it can't be disproved by the fact that characters don't give him 
their absolute trust.