Double standards and believing

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 120974


Lupinlore:


True, true.  I guess there are a lot of ways to approach this 
question.  Let me set out how I <think> JKR sets it up in the 
books.  It seems to me, as I've said in other posts, that JKR has a 
lot of essentialism in the books.  That is one side is good and the 
other bad BY DEFINITION.  In a sense she has a very metaphysical 
construct of good and evil.  That is, good and evil appear to be 
existant states that have their own reality quite independent of any 
human belief or intention.  Dumbledore partakes, in a Platonic 
sense, of Goodness, whereas Voldemort partakes of Evil.  Hence her 
statement about "Dumbledore is goodness" and "Dumbledore is the 
epitome of goodness."
Now, given this set of affairs, how one acts and what one does are 
good or evil in that they support one of these two opposed 
principals.  Therefore, Percy is evil in defying his family because 
this supports the evil principal IRREGARDLESS OF PERCY'S INTENT OR 
REASONING.  Cho is good in defying her family because this supports 
the good principal IRREGARDLESS OF CHO'S INTENT OR REASONING.  In 
JKR's world, your actions are good or not according to an objective 
standard of who you're helping, your own personal beliefs and 
intentions and morals seem to have very little, if anything, to do 
with it.
Now that might not seem very fair.  But if one believes in Good and 
Evil as Platonic existants, as JKR seems to in the HP saga, it is 
perfectly logical.


Alla:

I will have to think about it a little bit more, but as of today I 
agree 100%.

JKR beats us over the head that Dumbledore is good, Voldemort is bad.

I am at least happy that she does not make all people who support 
Dumbledore to be 100% white. She did not managed it with DE, IMO. 
All people who support Voldemort are 100% black, at least now and 
IMO only.

So, ummm, yeah, no matter how independently Percy thinks and decides 
for himself to join Fudge - it is bad, because  joining the "black" 
side is bad in the "potterverse" even if you exercise independent 
thinking.

Going back to Marietta for a second - betraying Light is BAD even if 
you remain loyal to your family while doing so.

I agree with you Lupinlore - based on the values of "potterverse" as 
I see them, it seems perfectly logical to me.


Just my opinion,

Alla