Double standards and believing
M.Clifford
Aisbelmon at hotmail.com
Sun Jan 2 11:30:06 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 120981
> Del wrote:
>
> > People don't believe in LV's resurrection : bad.
> > Hermione doesn't believe in heliopaths : good.
> >
> > Luna believes in crumpled-horned snorkacks : bad.
> > Luna believes in resurrection and life after death : good.
>
Dave Witely:
> I'm not altogether sure whether you're saying that list members
make these judgements, or whether the text implies them; however, I
think there's some misdirection by JKR going on here.
>
> I think the superficial reader is encouraged to think with
Hermione that Snorkacks and Heliopaths do not exist, but that in a
future book Luna will turn out to be right about something (I'm
guessing something to do with Fudge) despite Hermione's
rationalistic objections.
>
Valky:
I quite agree with your veiw here, David. The intellectual tete a
tete of Hermione and Luna has fascinated me from my first read of
OOtP. They are both *thinkers* and I highly doubt that JKR is
leading into or even implying now a superiority of either of the two
minds. Luna challenges the "Hermione institution" of rationality and
recognised logic, with intuition and imaginative insight.
Personally, I think it's a fantastic development in the story and
throughout the next two books I'm sure, as you have said David, that
we will discover Luna to be as clever, and *right* as Hermione.
Dave:
> Why are we led feel that scepticism about snorkacks and heliopaths
> is "good" (I would say "justified" might be a better term) while
> there may be something in Luna's beliefs about death?
>
> - Luna's social reactions are often slightly inappropriate.
> Although this ought not to reflect on her credibility (and in
> certain types of literature would be a sure pointer to a
> supernatural acuity of vision) it does do so for many of her
> peers, and it is hard for the reader not to be influenced by this.
>
Valky:
Personally, rather than feeling led to scepticism about the fantasy
creatures by Hermiones encounter with Luna, I felt I was pointed to
a recognition of Hermiones limitations, if you will, a deeper
outline of where Hermione ends, and the wider WW begins.
Dave:
> I find it intriguing that JKR has introduced a theme which allows
> Hermione to seem like the Dursleys in her dismissal of things
> outside the range of her understanding. It has the odd effect of
> making all the magic we have so far encountered somehow mundane,
> just another branch of technology.
>
Valky:
Yes, as you have it. I am pretty sure this is the effect that Jo
reaches for. The infinity of the WW; beyond what we don't know,
there is what they don't know.
To me it is these things that make the WW so real so climb-in-and-
stay-awhile-able.
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