[HPforGrownups] Re: Double standards and believing

[Chris O'Toole]

No: HPFGUIDX 121043


 
 
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From: Steve
Date: 01/03/05 05:10:43
To: HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPforGrownups] Re: Double standards and believing
 
 
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"bboyminn wrote:

This is Umbridge's actions vs Hermione's actions. For example,
Umbridge via the Dementor attack tried to (as good as) kill Harry;
which we see as bad. Hermione tried to kill Umbridge (or so some
assume) via the trip to the forest and the Centaurs; which we see as good.
 
The difference was the Umbridge acted with offensive intent. She
attacked an innocent person without provocation or legal
justifications. Hermione on the other hand, acted in a defensive
manner. She lured a ruthless and cruel person who admitedly tried to
previously do great harm to Harry (Dementor attack) and who was about
to attacking him again with a curse that was illegal and probably
immoral. Defense against immenent threat vs unwaranted illegal
unautorized attack.
 
Plus, we don't know that Hermione intended the Centaurs to kill
Umbridge. Reasonably, in the limited time she had to form the plan,
Hemione thought the Centaur adventure would buy them some time, and at
worst, provide them an opportunity to escape from Umbridge. "


The Muffin Man:

Sorry for this short, and over-all pointless post, but one thing I'd like to
add to the comment about Umbridge Vs. Hermione. I agree entirely that
hermione had no intention at all of killing  Umbridge. When Umbridge goes
all crazy and starts shouting at the centaurs, Hermione repeatedly tried to
tell Umbridge to shut up, knowing that this would agrivate the centaurs with
the talk of "Half-breeds" and "Near human intellegence". And even screamed
when Umbridge wipped out her wand and tied up one of the centaurs, knowing
that this would lead to trouble...

Due to Hermiones actions inside the forest, you can clearly guess that,
although Hermione was purposefully talking loudly and making noises to
attract the centaurs, she had no original intent on killing Umbridge. And I
m not even sure she even meant to harm umbridge in any way, maybe she simply
wanted to have the centaurs chase her away and forget they were there...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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