Harsh Morality - Combined answers
M.Clifford
Aisbelmon at hotmail.com
Tue Jan 4 12:28:24 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 121100
> Valky wrote:
> "No Del, it is the frame of reference you're using that is
> oversimplified. You speak of morality in a human character as
though it should be some automated machinery turning cogs in set
process. "
>
> Del replies:
> No, I'm not the one doing that : that's the way things are
presented in the books. More precisely, anyone who doesn't see that
Harry and DD are right is evil.
Valky:
I'm sorry, Del, but I have no idea what you mean by that. I don't
recall that happening, precisely.
Del:
> The fact that Percy was overstressed and badly hurt by what his
father told him, the fact that Seamus and Marrietta were stuck
between conflicting loyalties, the fact that Harry looks so much
like Snape's past tormentor, all those things are presented as not
mattering, not being any kind of excuse, and those people are
presented not only as wrong but even evil for making the wrong
choices they made. I happen to disagree strongly.
>
Valky:
I see your point, but I don't think that the books misrepresented
these people so much as you say.
Percy had been behaving like a jerk for years, especially in his
holier than thou attitude towards his family. Most of the
interpretations of Percy are based on the development of his
character, and not essentially on his defection from the Weasleys to
Fudge. Basically, we all saw it coming a mile off, and whatever
Arthur would or wouldn't say to him was always going to be entirely
inconsequential. Percy's choice was made long ago, and his loyalty
to his career was the natural progression we expected. Arthur simply
made it easier, or harder depending on which side of the ESE fence
you like to sit, for him to follow through with it.
Seamus is easy, the book IS sympathetic to him, he was portrayed as
a good friend embattled in his loyalties, he wasn't portrayed as
evil at all. Our sympathy is, of course, with Harry, because he is
continually being wronged and it's out of his control. We aren't
divulged the entire life story of Seamus Finnigan, so we only see
him suffering a small injustice in comparison to the hopelessness of
Harry's whole summer.
When "Seamus Finnigan and the Injustices of 1995" is published I am
sure that the tables will turn and the onesidedness of it all will
lean the other way. ;P
Marietta OTOH broke a promise, and she *is* portrayed pretty
unsympathetically, by the book. She was an unfortunate pawn in the
story wandering in above her depth, but for the most part, Harry and
co veiwed her deed is evil, which I will concede isn't really fair,
under the circumstance. However, in wartime which we face in the
next two books the code of honour among small rebel groups, such as
DA, will count for much more, and people like Marietta won't have
the excuse of not knowing what they are about to do.
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