Harsh Morality - Combined answers

Tonks tonks_op at yahoo.com
Tue Jan 4 18:09:44 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 121118


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "delwynmarch" 
<delwynmarch at y...> wrote:

> Tonks wrote:
> " From a Christian perspective which we know JKR is, God created 
human beings and in so doing, He created them as good."
> 
> Del replies:
> Careful, not all Christians believe that. Some actually believe 
that humans are born evil but can be redeemed through Christ. I'm
> personally on a middle ground where I believe that people are born
> (not God-created) in different stages of goodness and evilness.


Tonks here:

Ah, Del I suspect that you might be a member of Slytherin house?  Or 
at least the Devil's advocate in these debates. 

When I said that it was the teaching of the *Church* I am referring 
to the traditional orthodox teaching of the Eastern and Western 
Churches before the time of Calvin, and continuing today (except for 
those Protestants who follow the teaching of Calvin). But even 
Calvin would not say that people are born EVIL.  Fallen and in need 
of redemption is not the same as EVIL.  To say that someone is evil 
is a serious statement and not to be done lightly. There are only a 
few truly evil people in the HP books.  Most are ordinary people who 
muddle things up now and then, and even when what they do is plainly 
wrong, they are not evil.

Personally I think that there is even hope for Tom Riddle. Perhaps 
the *in essence separate* that DD sees in his smoke rings is a 
reference to the state of TR/LV.  Maybe Tom has not total become LV 
and there is still hope for him.  But it will take a sacrificial 
death to save him.  I am probably way off the beam on this one, we 
will see.  

By the way, I like the 4th book best and the 5th over the simple, 
more for children, that I see in books 1-3.  IMO there is more 
serious moral teaching in book 4.  Also book 4 shows the true naked 
reality of REAL EVIL.  

Tonks_op








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