Percy was Re: Harsh Morality - Combined answers

[hickengruendler]

No: HPFGUIDX 121201


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "M.Clifford" <Aisbelmon at h...> 
wrote:
> 
> > Hickengruendler:
> > And, by the way, I disagree with eggplant's opinion about him, 
and 
> > especially the statement that he tried to help putting Harry in 
> > Azkaban, which IMO is an interpretation only based on what Harry 
> > thought the MoM might do to him. 
> 
> Valky:
> You doubt? the Ministry would have sent Harry to Azkaban, after 
> allowing a dementor attack, and an obtusely oversized 'Trial by 
> Wizengamot' for his minor offence, attempted stifling of his 
> character witness, inciting public outrage at him.... it's not a 
> *secret* that Fudge, Percy, Umbridge and co had /zero/ regard for 
> Harry's wellbeing, basic rights, safety, /life/. This is not a 
> hidden part of the plot. Frankly, your position on it entirely 
> perplexes me.

Hickengruendler:

Well, it's actually based on Canon, IMO. At no point, does Fudge even 
mention Azkaban. During the hearing, all Fudge wanted was to expell 
Harry. Which was of course totally unfair, as was the whole trial, 
I'm the last person to deny this. But since Azkaban wasn't mentioned, 
I see no reason to assume that Fudge planned to send Harry there. You 
would assume that if Fudge planned to send Harry to Azkaban, he would 
have demanded this as his punishment on the hearing. Don't 
misunderstand me, I think it's perfectly possible from what we seen 
from the Ministry that they would plan to send Harry to Azkaban 
(especially because wizards are sent to Azkaban for minor things like 
being an unregistered Animagus. At least that's what Hermione 
sucessfully threatens Rita with), but I don't think it was planned in 
this special case, and therefore you can't use it to judge Percy.

And "the ministry" did not allow a Dementor attack. It was Umbridge 
on her own, she admitted that Fudge didn't know about it. Therefore 
it was a decision of one person, which had nothing to do with Fudge 
or Percy, except that they used the opportunity trying to expell 
Harry (which is bad enough).