Will Snape betray Dumbledore? Re: my greatest fear....

[Renee]

No: HPFGUIDX 121319


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...> 
wrote:
> Pippin: 
> > > Snape is the banner bearer for second chances; if he blows 
> it, or  if he must die a martyr's death to redeem himself, it's 
not 
> going  to be very encouraging is it? To paraphrase a bumper 
> sticker,  Snape needn't be perfect, just forgiven.
> 
> Nora:
> > Goodness, Pippin, are you arguing from necessity here?  You 
> weren't too supportive of the logic that says "Lupin isn't evil 
> because he's  the posterboy for good werewolves"; substitute 
> "Snape isn't evil  because he's the posterboy for second 
> chances", and it's the same argument.
> 
> 
> Pippin:
> 
> My arguemnt is with  the premise that a fallen posterboy must 
> completely undermine  the argument even if there are other 
> characters who uphold it. Grawp and Hagrid have been drawn 
> into the fight against anti-speciesism and they're  more active 
> characters than Lupin now. Then there's Luna, who could easily 
> be a werewolf too. 

Renee:
Can't help myself, simply have to react :)
I don't see why Grawp and Hagrid should be considered more active 
characters than Lupin at the end of OotP. Lupin takes part in the 
battle in the DoM and is a member of the group that delivers the 
warning to the Dursleys in the very last chapter of the book. He got 
more action than Grawp (and he's a lot more focused as well). 

Also, I'm not sure anti-speciesism is identical with werewolf 
discrimination. Hagrid can stay at Hogwarts as a teacher even though 
people know he's a half-giant, while Lupin's prolonged stay would 
have led to huge numbers of howlers from worried or outraged 
parents; that alone indicates the two are not the same. 

That leaves Luna, but she can't be used as an argument, because we 
don't know yet if she's a werewolf or not, and arguments derived 
from the future are invalid.

Renee
whose worst fear, BTW, is not that Lupin will turn out ESE, but that 
Snape will do so