Curse Scars/Cats/Occulmency
mhbobbin
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Sat Jan 8 17:35:49 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 121458
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "danni_yetman"
<suedepatch at h...> wrote:
>
> Well I've been re-reading the HP series, and I've got some little
> oddities/coincidences that I hope have not already been exhausted
and
> that some others will be interested to discuss.
> The first, curse scars. Obviously the most promenent is Harry's.
But
> towards the end of GoF Fudge says to Dumbledore "You'll forgive
me,
> Dumbledore, but I've heard of a curse acting as an alarm bell
> before..." (GoF-The Parting of Ways, pg.613 British version) I
think
> that's very interesting. (snip> who is Fudge talking about, and
> what was it an alarm bell for?
Mhbobbin writes:
I wonder if this remark by Fudge was one of those mistakes that was
edited for later editions. In my paperback edition, Fudge says "I've
never heard of a curse acting as an alarm bell before...". But you
are not the first poster to quote it this other way.
"danni_yetman":
> Cats and Squibs: Filch has Mrs. Norris, and Mrs. Figg has
several, and Mr. Tibbles is the one we saw in OotP. Both Filch and >
Mrs. Figg seem to be able to communicate with their cats...and I
> cannot recall if there was another possible hint about cat-Squib
> connection. I think it's also interesting that the cats has name
> beginning with Mr and Mrs...it gives them a very human
> quality...important? Mrs. Figg...indicates she is or was
> married...that could also be relevant...although maybe not! Any
> thought?
mhbobbin writes:
Interesting observation about the cats' names. Maybe Crookshanks is
not Mr. Crookshanks because he's half-kneazle, and he clearly isn't
living with a Squib in Hermione.
I think Mrs. Figg is something more than she appears and I don't
completely trust that she's a squib. And there's this strange
association with Perkins. Very weird.
"danni_yetman":
> Finally, we were introduced to Occulmency in OotP, but JKR seems
to
> have dropped hints about it, more specifically Snape's connection
to
> it, at least this is what I've noticed in re-re-re-re-re-reading
the
> first 2 books so far...trying to really read between the lines.
Harry
> has said several times that it is almost as if Snape can read
minds.
> I don't know if this refers to Snapes being a skilled Occulmens.
> Harry having his mind penetrated was something he was aware of in
> OotP, but can a mind be penetrated by other means? hmmmm!
> Hope these aren't just idle speculations of mine!!! Let's get some
> replies please!
>
mhbobbin:
In re-reading COS, it was apparent that one scene that didn't make
sense at the time to me was DD practicing legilmens on Harry--the
scene where Harry is called to DD's office, and after DD stares into
Harry's eyes, tells Harry he knows him to be innocent. He then asks
Harry if there's anything he'd like to tell him. Harry's mind runs
through a series of scenes and Harry replies no. But clearly DD then
knew about the Polyjuice Potion plot etc. that the trio are cooking
up. DD does not choose to intervene.
Snape is not the only suspected Legilmens. There are many times
that Harry observes Lupin seems to be reading his mind as well.
Mhbobbin
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