Curse Scars/Cats/Occulmency

mhbobbin mhbobbin at yahoo.com
Sat Jan 8 17:35:49 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 121458


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "danni_yetman" 
<suedepatch at h...> wrote:
> 
> Well I've been re-reading the HP series, and I've got some little 
> oddities/coincidences that I hope have not already been exhausted 
and 
> that some others will be interested to discuss.
> The first, curse scars. Obviously the most promenent is Harry's. 
But 
> towards the end of GoF Fudge says to Dumbledore "You'll forgive 
me, 
> Dumbledore, but I've heard of a curse acting as an alarm bell 
> before..." (GoF-The Parting of Ways, pg.613 British version) I 
think 
> that's very interesting. (snip>  who is Fudge talking about, and 
> what was it an alarm bell for?

Mhbobbin writes:

I wonder if this remark by Fudge was one of those mistakes that was 
edited for later editions. In my paperback edition, Fudge says "I've 
never heard of a curse acting as an alarm bell before...". But you 
are not the first poster to quote it this other way.


"danni_yetman":
> Cats and Squibs: Filch has Mrs. Norris, and Mrs. Figg has  
several, and Mr. Tibbles is the one we saw in OotP. Both Filch and > 
Mrs. Figg seem to be able to communicate with their cats...and I 
> cannot recall if there was another possible hint about cat-Squib 
> connection. I think it's also interesting that the cats has name 
> beginning with Mr and Mrs...it gives them a very human 
> quality...important? Mrs. Figg...indicates she is or was 
> married...that could also be relevant...although maybe not! Any 
> thought?


mhbobbin writes:

Interesting observation about the cats' names.  Maybe Crookshanks is 
not Mr. Crookshanks because he's half-kneazle, and he clearly isn't 
living with a Squib in Hermione.

I think Mrs. Figg is something more than she appears and I don't 
completely trust that she's a squib. And there's this strange 
association with Perkins. Very weird. 

"danni_yetman":
> Finally, we were introduced to Occulmency in OotP, but JKR seems 
to 
> have dropped hints about it, more specifically Snape's connection 
to 
> it, at least this is what I've noticed in re-re-re-re-re-reading 
the 
> first 2 books so far...trying to really read between the lines. 
Harry 
> has said several times that it is almost as if Snape can read 
minds. 
> I don't know if this refers to Snapes being a skilled Occulmens. 
> Harry having his mind penetrated was something he was aware of in 
> OotP, but can a mind be penetrated by other means? hmmmm!
> Hope these aren't just idle speculations of mine!!! Let's get some 
> replies please! 
>
mhbobbin:

In re-reading COS, it was apparent that one scene that didn't make 
sense at the time to me was DD practicing legilmens on Harry--the 
scene where Harry is called to DD's office, and after DD stares into 
Harry's eyes, tells Harry he knows him to be innocent. He then asks 
Harry if there's anything he'd like to tell him. Harry's mind runs 
through a series of scenes and Harry replies no. But clearly DD then 
knew about the Polyjuice Potion plot etc. that the trio are cooking 
up.  DD does not choose to intervene.

Snape is not the only suspected Legilmens.  There are many times 
that Harry observes Lupin seems to be reading his mind as well.

Mhbobbin







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