[HPforGrownups] Re: Marietta and the DA.

[charme]

No: HPFGUIDX 121542



> Del replies:
> OK, could you make up your mind? Is the situation in OoP similar to an
> open war such as WWII, where everyone is supposed to know they are at
> war and to react accordingly? Or is it similar to a cold war where the
> war is limited to secret agents, and the general public blissfully
> believe they are at peace? It can't be both, unless you accept to
> consider, like I do, that there were actually *two* very different
> wars going on. Personally, I believe that the Harry/MoM was quite an
> open war, but that it didn't concern such people as Marrietta, while
> the LV/Order war was a cold one that people such as Marrietta didn't
> know almost anything about.
>

charme:

Ou, pick me, pick me my hand is up! I like making up my mind ;)

I think Hermoine acted according to circumstances and understanding she has 
at the time, and what is symbolic about her actions is there is level of 
caution and mistrust already brewing even among this small part of the WW 
we're able to see in the books. We're talking a 15 year old girl here and 
one which still, no matter how brilliant, has a lot to learn. That being 
said, Hermoine could have planned better and avoided the hexing issue, but 
then again if JKR hadn't written it that way, we wouldn't be noodling over 
it, now would we? :)

And no, it's not war declared openly, but I'd like to know what you believe 
the events which precede *open* war should be called.  I almost get the 
sense you're arguing that war must be "bucketed" into one meaning or 
another, and I disagree - whether secret or open, conflict is conflict even 
if it isn't called "war" openly.  Ignorance of the conflict isn't the point 
to me:  I interpret what I've read thus far to the importance of trust, 
loyalty, bravery, and friendship and much is made of such values in the 
other books, particularly PoA. Marietta may have been ignorant of the Order, 
LV coming back etc, but she had a choice to attend (again, no one held a gun 
to her head) and participate, and a choice to snitch on the group to 
Umbridge and violate the trust her *friend* and others placed in her. 
Sometimes you pay the price for your choices, as she did and as Harry did 
when choosing to go to the DoM and not trusting Hermoine and Ron when they 
tried to convince him what he's seeing in his head  about LV torturing 
Sirius might not be true. It's all about learning from our mistakes, isn't 
it? As a final note, it's my bet we don't see Marietta again in the next 2 
books:  I think she was an "expendable crewman" who JKR sacrificed to show 
the complexities of these values and choices made by her characters.

I might not be popular for what I'm saying, but ah well, that's life and 
I'll just have to find the strength to muster on. :)

charme