Snape and Occlumency

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Mon Jan 10 20:42:16 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 121589


Inkling chimes in:
 
The more I think about it the more I conclude that Snape was 
actually serving LV during these lessons.  He opened up Harry's mind 
so much that LV was able to penetrate his mind during the first 
lesson (Harry hears "a voice coming out of him" simultaneously with 
his scar hurting).   A few hours later, LV was able to penetrate 
Harry's mind for the first time while Harry was still awake, in such 
a powerful way that "He did not know where he was, whether he was 
standing or lying down, he did not even know his own name."

snip
Finally there's JKR's constant reminders that we shouldn't think 
Snape is too nice, and the hints at a redemption in Book 7.  Who 
needs redemption? Only one who has sinned.
 
Potioncat:
Well, that's two of us.  I found evidence in PoA and you're finding 
it in OoP.  I'll direct you to this link to the most recent post 
convincing me of Snape's trustworthiness.  There were seveal others 
as well if you go upthread.  Of course, I think they all had to do 
with PoA.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/121545

SIGH [Snape is good.(hopefully)]
Potioncat


Alla:

I don't know, Potioncat. If I cannot really condemn Snape based on 
PoA, I find it MUCH harder NOT to do so based on OOP. I completely 
agree with Inkling that the fact that Harry felt worse after the 
lessons MAY mean very unplesant things and so far I can find nothing 
which would mitigate the said circumstance.

Don't get me wrong, I HOPE that it means something different.

It is possible that for example you are SUPPOSED to feel weaker after 
Occlumency, BUT why exactly Snape did not TELL Harry about that then?

You know, giving him some kind of claming draught to relax or 
something like that, something to ease his pain. 

I actually hope that he was not serving LV at the moment and was just 
being Snape and took an extra opportunity to inflict pain on Harry, 
not only emotional, but also physical.

Just my opinion,

Alla







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