Snape and Occlumency

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No: HPFGUIDX 121599


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dungrollin" 
<spotthedungbeetle at h...> wrote:
> Yeah, well, we all think different things about Occlumency and 
> Legilimency, don't we?  There's no evidence to suggest that you 
only 
> have to say "Legilimens" once, as this is the only time we ever 
see 
> what Snape's doing while Harry's under.  It's a good point 
though.  
> You might have to keep repeating "Legilimens... Legilimens... 
> Legilimens... Oh for God's sake Potter, *try*! ... Legilimens..." 
> 
Inkling replies:

If so, it is the only spell in the WW that works that way.  All the 
spells we have encountered require only a single incantation.

In this lesson, the incantation "Legilimens!" has already worked:  
Snape has access to Harry's mind.  So, what else does he want?

 Dungrollin:
> Yes, he can see Thestrals, JKR has confirmed that, but he'd have 
had 
> to have been looking out of a window in the right direction at 
> exactly the right time to see them take off.  And doesn't he 
inhabit 
> the dungeons?  Are there any windows?

He's been known to go outside, especially when he suspects something 
is up (see Shrieking Shack scene in PoA). 
  
> 
> Dungrollin:
> They didn't know.  Voldy baited the trap with the vision of 
Sirius, 
> then they waited. (Evil henchmen always get the tedious jobs.)

This could be the way it happened, good point.  But if Snape is 
working for the DEs it would only have made sense for him to give 
them precise information. 

(snip)
 
 .>If Snape were 
> *really* working for LV, why alert the Order at all? 

To maintain his status as a double agent and throw Dumbledore off 
the scent.  He probably assumed all the DEs would be gone by the 
time the Order got there.  And Harry, if he survived, would have 
told Dumbledore about the message he gave Snape in Umbridge's 
office.  So Snape had to at least appear to have helped the Order.

Inkling