Snape and Occlumency

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No: HPFGUIDX 121637


> Carol responds:
One more point. We need to look at the narrator here. Harry's dating
the increased prickling to the beginning of the Occlumency lessons is
his own view, not objective fact. He hates the lessons; he hates
Snape; he *wants* to think that the lessons are harming him. That 
does not mean that they actually are harming him, or that Snape 
wants them to. 



Alla:
  ".... Harry, are you sure you're all right?.
For Harry had just run both his hands hard over his forehead as 
though trying to iron it.
"Yeah... fine... he said, lowering his hands, which were 
trembling. "I just feel a bit... I don't like Occlumency much..."
"I expect anyone would feel shaky if they'd had their mind attacked 
over and over again, " said Hermione sympathetically.

.....

Harry did not answer he was still feeling ill" - OOP, p.540, 
paperback, amer.ed.


I respectfully submit that there is absolutely NOTHING in this quote 
that can makes us somehow think that what Harry describes does not 
actually happen.

YES, Harry does not like Occlumency, but he IS hurting AND he is 
hurting right after Occlumency lesson ended. I am not saying that it 
is a 100% guaranty, that lessons are actually harming him, but I 
think it is a pretty big one.

That is what I meant much earlier when I stated MY unsatisfaction 
with unreliable narrator argument.

YES, narrator is often unreliable, but when he describes objective 
feelings, I don't think we can dismiss it as unreliable simply 
because we would like to. :o) JMO, of course.

Oh, another quick question, Carol. You just said in your other post 
that you trust Dumbledore and Hermione as JKR spoke people in their 
trust of Snape, right?

So, here we have Hermione speaking up that anybody would feel shaky 
from attack on their mind. Do you think that she is also correct and 
weakened mental defenses are AT LEAST often sideeffect of the 
Occlumency? Because if you answer in the positive, I think that at 
least makes Snape guilty of not warning Harry to take it easy after 
the lesson.

Just my opinion,

Alla