Percy Brasco?.

eggplant9998 eggplant9998 at yahoo.com
Tue Jan 11 06:43:20 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 121648


"justcarol67" <justcarol67 at y...> wrote:

> I have yet to see canon evidence that 
> she *intended* for DD to lose his position,
> much less that she knew what that might
> mean for Hogwarts or Harry. 

There is no canon evidence that Marietta is retarded either and 
she'd have to be not to know what sort of person Umbridge was. She 
may not have been able to predict in detail what the ramifications 
her betrayal would be but she MUST have known it would be 
devastating to Harry, the other members of the DA, and Hogwarts in 
general.

> it's *Harry* who fears that he'll go to
> Azkaban as a result of the hearing. There
> is no objective evidence that he would 
>actually have gone there. 

How else can you explain the very first message Harry received from 
the ministry in the chapter "A Peck Of Owls", it said he was already 
expelled and his wand would be destroyed but IN ADDITION he was 
ordered to attend a "disciplinary hearing"; there is only one thing 
that could mean, expulsion and being forced to live as a muggle was 
not enough, the specter of Azkaban loomed. 

And if this was not something very very serious why was there a 
formal trial   held in the largest courtroom by the full Wizengamot, 
something that has not happened in many years. This was a criminal 
trial not a "disciplinary hearing", Dumbledore specifically said so, 
and when people are convicted in a criminal trial they go to jail. 
The wizard jail is Azkaban.

Percy was in his element and in a very good mood when it looked like 
Harry would end up in Azkaban, laughing on cue at Fudge's bad jokes 
(very good minister!) and looking smug. It was only when Harry won 
his freedom that Percy became morose. The exact same thing happened 
later when it looked like Dumbledore would go to Azkaban, except 
then it was even more blatant. 

> Mrs. Figg's (who, if we accept JKR's website 
> as canon, did not really see the Dementors

You have me at a disadvantage, I have always taken it as a given 
that Figg did see the Dementors, am I wrong?  What exactly did JKR 
say?

> we have canon for Percy's good side, 
> what appears to be a genuine affection,
> if not love, for his brother Ron, as 
> evidenced by his wading into the water
> after the Second Task in GoF after 
> fearing that Ron would drown. 

Yes that was good I can't deny it, but it's interesting, whenever 
somebody wants to show Percy's good side they always come up with 
that exact same example and I think I know why; in 5 long books that 
one short sentence pretty much exhausts Percy's entire good side.  
It seems to be the only good thing he did in his life.

> if we should cut Hermione some slack,
> we should cut Percy some, too 

Hermione doesn't need any slack and Percy doesn't deserve any.

Eggplant
 










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