[HPforGrownups] Christian motifs but not Christian allegory? (Was: JKR a Calvinist? Potterverse
Barb Roberts
miamibarb at BellSouth.net
Tue Jan 11 15:13:06 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 121670
On Jan 9, 2005, at 6:08 PM, justcarol67 wrote:
For the record, I didn't mean an objection to the Christmas
celebrations per se. I just thought it was odd that if she were a
Calvinist, as some people have suggested, that she would recognize the
Church seasons--Advent... ( the Anglican, Episcopal,
and (I think) Catholic Churches... I don't know whether a
Presbyterian (Church of Scotland) would follow that tradition... in her
books seems CoE to me, with no suggestion of Calvinism.
Life is complicated. Unfortunately, I don't think church membership
alone will be enough to ascertain the specifics of JKR beliefs. A
couple of examples... A few years ago the rector of the local
Episcopal church (mainline) was a Calvinist. His theological ideas
concerning God and salvation was from the reformation (i.e. reformed.)
On the other hand, I have come across numerous members of historically
Calvinist churches that had strong historic ties to Puritanism who no
longer believe in predestination, and they don't celebrate Christmas
for twelve days either. Go figure. And belief in predestination (or
"the five points of Calvinism") is not even a requirement for lay
membership even in most conservative Presbyterian churches. Plenty of
people are members who don't believe all the particulars belong. To
find the answer, to what JKR believes, she will have to communicate
that to us.
However, I remember reading (somewhere?) that she said didn't think
people were born bad or ?. I don't have the quote exactly, but it
struck me as something that a true blue Calvinist would never say.
A side note, it's a clarification really, so Elves please don't scream.
It's not just advent; there are strains within conservative
Presbyterianism that are still trying to do away with Christmas
celebrations. My understanding is that this anti-Christmas celebration
sentiment is still alive in parts of Scotland. A local church, in a
denomination with informal ties to the Free Presbyterian Church of
Scotland, has a Pastor who has tried to rid the congregation of
Christmas. He tried to move the Christmas to another month, his idea
of the real month for the birth of Jesus. He wouldn't even sing
Christmas carols on Christmas day. He also during a sermon where his
Santa-believing nephews were in attendance that Santa doesn't exist,
etc. Ouch! BTW, these churches would object to being called
"fundamentalist," for that is another theology, so be careful.
Obviously, though JKR is not that kind of Presbyterian.
Barbara Roberts
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
More information about the HPforGrownups
archive