All about Lupin

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Wed Jan 12 23:25:35 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 121805



> Renee:
> No, I don't see it either - that is to say, not in the book; there, 
> it struck me as typical behaviour for a traditional Northwestern 
> European male teacher approaching middle age, especially 
as Lupin did *not* touch Harry, after all. No pedophilia there. 
<snip>
> If it was meant to be in the movie, though, it disturbs me a
little, 
> and not just because as a warning, it is a failure. (As it would 
be  in the PoA book, because it had no immediate 
consequences there, and  the message would be lost on 
children if it stretched over three or  four books/six to eight
years. 
But as I said, I don't see it there.) <

Pippin:
You could just as well say that all the death omens linked to 
Sirius in PoA were a failure, since they had no consequences 
there, and  children would be unlikely to remember them until 
OOP. JKR obviously means the books to be re-read. She often 
makes cross-references from book to book  that a child might 
not notice -- for example,the way the obstacles from the first book 
echo the themes of the succeeding volumes.

Renee: 
> My main problem is that JKR said that she'd like Lupin to be 
her daughter's teacher.  <

Pippin:
I think JKR genuinely wishes Lupin could escape from the doom 
she has laid out for him, just as she wished Sirius could.  I 
suspect she sees ESE!Lupin  as making choices that seem the 
best available to him. In a world where there was no werewolf 
prejudice, and no Voldemort, and where he was allowed to do 
what he was obviously born to do, there would be little to fear 
from him. He, like Kreacher, is what the WW has made him, a 
product of other people's choices as well as his own.

ESE!Lupin is a metaphor for what happens if you, unlike Snape, 
are too afraid of the consequences to confess and seek pardon. 
ESE!Lupin, like many on the list, thinks all werewolves will be 
judged by his actions, and that there is no way Dumbledore 
would pardon him if he knew what Lupin had done.


This is where the pedophilia comes in, IMO, as  a metaphor, and 
*only* as a metaphor,  for the unforgivable.  Instead of 
confessing and asking for a second chance as Snape did, 
ESE!Lupin keeps trying to cover up what he has done and 
commits more and more crimes in the process. He isn't doing 
all this evil because he was a  bad person from the beginning, or 
even a weak one-- it  was because he had no faith, not even in 
Dumbledore.

Pippin







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