All about Lupin

[Rebecca]

No: HPFGUIDX 121856



--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "nkafkafi" <nkafkafi at y...> 
wrote:
> 
> Pippin wrote:
> > 
> > <snip>
> > I am in the process of compiling a table of all the clues, but 
> > briefly, in order to maintain Lupin's innocence you have to 
believe 
> > that on the night of the Shrieking Shack he somehow:
> > 
> > forgot he needed his potion
> > forgot that he would transform that night
> > forgot that Snape would be bringing the potion
> > forgot to deactivate the Marauders Map
> > did not  recognize the Invisibility Cloak although he ran right 
> past 
> > it
> > forgot when he was due to transform
> > 
> > and was not reminded of any of these things although he 
> > touched on all of them in an hour of conversations.
> > 
> > Nope, that would make either Lupin or Rowling an idiot. I don't 
> > think so.
> > 
> 
It seems to me that this whole ESE!Lupin thing is crazy! I think 
it's already been covered that the handing out of chocolate was a 
good thing (Madam Pomfrey certainly approves). The problem seems to 
be the phrase `I haven't poisoned that chocolate, you know
'. 
Of course, I, like the rest of you, am speculating, but from the 
view of just a normal human being, I would have said a phrase along 
those lines was necessary to bring Harry back to the subject of the 
chocolate. If you look at the passage, Lupin says this after having 
gone to speak to the driver. When he comes back, he discovers that 
they haven't touched the chocolate and are still on the subject of 
the dementors, verging on what you'd expect from someone in shock. 
Their attention is fully fixed on what has just happened. He wanted 
to help, so he used the phrase as a way of chiding them for not 
eating it and to bring their attention to it. 
As a child, I remember meeting children of my parents friends. I'd 
not be one to play with them, so my parents would say to me `It's 
ok. They don't bite you know!'. I'd put Lupin's phrase into that 
category.

Also, if he truly wasn't to be trusted, then why all the help? The 
only person we know of (so far) to appear to help, but not do is 
Barty Crouch Jnr as Moody. (`A servant who would guide Harry Potter 
through the Triwizard Tournament without appearing to do so').
In PoA we see Lupin teaching Harry to fight off dementors. The 
lessons evidently work as he is able to fight off a number of 
dementors only a really powerful wizard can. Surely this kind of 
power is not in LV interest. He could have simply given useless 
lessons (like Snape's Occlumency lessons were fairly useless, 
whether or not he meant them to be (currently under discussion I 
know!)). He had no need to give him the chocolate during the lesson 
when Harry had collapsed. Snape didn't give this kind of help in his 
lessons. (In fairness, this is an interesting scene as he seems 
scared of Harry's memory of his parents being killed, though I 
suspect I would be if someone was recounting the death of my best 
friend.)

As to the list of things he forgot that night in PoA, I know it 
seems like a lot, but they are interrelated. I agree with whoever it 
was who said about it being important for him to forget from JKR's 
point of view. Even so, if Snape was delivering the potion that 
night, and he didn't see it there when he left, it could easily have 
slipped his mind. His mind was (much like Harry's was about the 
dementors on the train) concentrated on the one thing, to the 
detriment of all others.
I work in a pharmacy. It would probably surprise you the number of 
people we get in who are asking what they ought to do because 
they've forgotten to take extremely important medicine. It's 
certainly a long way removed from uncommon.

He volunteers to be part of Harry's guard in OOTP, which would again 
have been unnecessary and unsuspicious as `a surprising number of 
people volunteered to come and get [Harry]'. Of course there is 
always the question of why a werewolf would choose to be on LV side 
when LV would clearly have been against werewolfs. Also, on the same 
point, how could a werewolf (or even simply a someone who was 
a 'blood traitor' by being friends with Lilly Potter) have possibly 
joined up without a powerful wizard such as LV without him noticing 
what he was? Again, unlikely.

Just a few of my thoughts on the subject. I'm sure someone will 
correct them for me!! :-) Becky