The Second Repository for LV's Soul (was: Re: LV's experiments)

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No: HPFGUIDX 122078


> Kemper now:
> Sorry to snip most of your post, it was enjoyable.
> 
> I can see how one may find the use of blood disturbing.  It seems 
> barbaric.  When I was working this out I didn't want to consider it, 
> but blood is such a strong/powerful symbol in religion 
> (Judeo/Christian anyway) and literature that it seems important to 
> the charm.  Referring to family, Hagrid says, "Whatever yeh say, 
> blood's important
."  (Ok, it's a bit out of context)

Antosha:

Blood rituals--literal and symbolic--have been parts of most religions, from the 
paleolithic caves on up, including those of the Aztecs and Incas, Hinduism, the Greek 
Mystery cults and, as you point out, Judeo-Christianity. Blood=Life. 

So it makes perfect sense that there be a literal blood-link to LV's nasty little 
'experiments.'

> 
> 
 Even though LV does say that even he doesn't know which of 
> his 'experiments' made him survive the rebounded curse, it is still 
> him making the remark.  He may be speaking truthfully, but it is easy 
> to see that LV would lie about which experiment made him un-killable 
> if not immortal.  It is so that he has the knowledge and no one 
> else.  That way he would not need to worry about any young, dark, 
> upstart wizard vying for his power and position.  Why would LV want 
> to share immortality with anyone? 
> 
> I think that LV suspects what saved him: his ability to leave a part 
> of his soul behind.  We first see it in CS, when sixteen-year-old 
> Tommy leaves a part of himself in the diary.  
> This is quite a trick.  Tom's a bright boy; he can see the 
> possibilities in this bit of magic.  He can easily imagine having his 
> soul entirely outside of his body someday.  Although not a spiritual 
> young man, he knows the soul can live forever and that it's the 
> vessel that tires and dies.  Over the years, he practices separating 
> his soul and body, but the closer they come to complete separation, 
> the difficult task becomes even more painful, LV becomes even 
> weaker.  He knows the soul is useless without the body.
> 
> I have another hypothesis about Ancient Law: two souls can't 
> completely occupy the same body.  This allows for possession as the 
> possessor still has facilities over his own body.
> 
> LV sees the necessity of extracting the soul from another 
> witch/wizard some day.  

<big snip>

Antosha

I will reserve the right to speak to the rest of your post until I've had some coffee, because 
your thoughts are very interesting. (There was a very interesting discussion about LV's 
soul having been left 'on deposit' in Harry back around the end of the summer--Yahoo!
Mort is proving uncooperative, so I can't seem to find it. I take it you read/remember 
those?)

I did have one flash here, though, which is that, aside from Harry, there is a second 
repository for Tom Riddle's poor excuse for a soul: Ginny. At the end of CoS, TR tells Harry 
that he 'poured himself' from the diary into Miss Ginevra. That was part of the way in 
which he was able to beginning his physical remanifestation. And there's no indication that 
he withdrew what he put there....

He's sure to know about the diary episode--Lucius knew all about it. Do we think that, 
having failed to knock off Harry so many times, he will shift his sights to the youngest 
Weasley? 

Antosha, who is sure GInny would definitely NOT play the damsel in distress the second 
time around...