In Defense of Snape (long)
dumbledore11214
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Sun Jan 16 22:27:28 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 122106
Naama:
I have two objections to make here. One, on a plot leve.
Second one, on a "meta" level, regarding the methodology of
interpretation.
My first point is - if Snape is nasty to Harry et al. in order to
maintain his spy cover - why is he even nastier to Harry when
they are alone?
Pippin:
Snape doesn't trust everyone that Harry trusts. Do you think
Snape wanted Harry telling Quirrell that Snape treats him okay
when they're alone?
Alla:
Pippin, why would Harry tell Quirrell how Snape treats him?
Moreover, why would Snape THINK that Harry talks to Quirrell?
I agree with Naama. Snape hurt Harry plenty of times when they were
alone - insulting James in Harry's face in PoA, making fun of
Harry's terror when he wanted to tell Dumbledore about Barty Sr.,
etc.
Snape had NO witnesses to those interactions.
Naama:
Second point - which holds to most conspiracy theories,
actually. If you hold a theory that explains a character's behavior
in terms of a hidden agenda, you have to be very careful about
consistency of interpretation. For instance, taken one by one,
which of Snape's moments of nastiness do you interprete as
necessitated by spy cover, and which are authentic, expressing
his true feelings and personality?<
> Pippin:
> Snape's hidden agenda is revealed when we would expect
> nasty behavior and don't get it; in OOP when he gives Umbridge
> fake veritaserum (the Order's secrets are in little danger since
> they are under fidelius), in GoF when he stands with the others
> to honor Harry at the leaving feast, in PoA when he conjures
> stretchers for Harry and the others, in CoS when he has a
> "shrewd and calculating look" instead of the discomfiture you
> would expect if his sole purpose in having Draco conjure the
> snake was to humiliate Harry, and of course in PS/SS when we
> find he has been shadowing Harry not to get him into trouble but
> to protect him from Quirrell.
Alla:
In all of those instances he either had no choice or he had no
possibility to exercise his sadism.
If he indeed faithful to Dumbledore, he can do nothing else, but to
do that to Umbridge. If he wants to maintain Dumbledore's trust, he
has NO CHOICE, but stand up and honor Harry.
If he knows that he will get nice bonus of handing Sirius and remus
to Dementors and getting Order of Merlin, sure he wants Dumbledore
to think that he tried to save the kids ( which I quite agree with
Potioncat now was very last thought on his mind, IMO).
He did save Harry in PS/SS, yeah. He did what any teacher has to do
when he sees his student in danger.
Pippin:
Snape has, by the conventions of Slytherin House, and of
authoritarian societies generally, the privilege of insulting his
inferiors.
Alla:
Does any other Hogwarts teacher has such privilege in your opinion
(please let's not talk about Umbridge, because she is not a teacher,
she was sent by Ministry for very specific purposes) or it is given
specifically to Snape, because he is so special? :o)
Needless to say I disagree.
Just my opinion,
Alla
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