Snape the Legilimens (Was: In Defense of Snape)
severelysigune
severelysigune at yahoo.co.uk
Mon Jan 17 13:26:05 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 122162
Snow wrote:
> > Snape knows how far he can push Harry or even Neville because he
knows who they are through his legilemency powers. < <
Geoff replied:
> I can't agree with you here.
If Snape is an expert Legilimens, then he must know that, at their
first meeting, Harry is uncertain in his new environment, probably
scared of this daunting person and certainly not arrogant. If he
can't pick up on that, then he just isn't as good as we're led to
believe. <
Sigune:
Sorry if this has been done to death, or if I'm asking stupid
questions, but how 'good' are we led to believe Snape is at
Legilimency? We only have it stated by several parties that he is an
expert *Occlumens*, and even that statement's validity has recently
been doubted on this list (not that I'm one of the doubters, mind).
As far as I know, Dumbledore's revelation of the existence of the art
of Legilimency in OotP has led many listees to believe that every
time previously in canon that Snape gives Harry his trademark
penetrating stare, he was using Legilimency; and Harry does mention
that he thought Snape could read his mind. But please note that on
most occasions Legilimency seems hardly necessary to figure out what
Harry might be up to.
Facts:
- Snape has never been called a Legilimens in canon; the only people
explicitly referred to as possessing this power are Dumbledore and
Voldemort.
- When Snape 'officially' subjects Harry to Legilimency, he uses his
wand and a spell.
So:
Either Snape cannot perform Legilimency without wand and spell;
or he *is* capable of it, but uses the more brutal wand-and-spell
technique in the Occlumency class to make it easier for Harry to
fight it - the 'subtler' form being hardly noticeable to the person
subjected to it (cf. Harry's vague feelings that Snape might just be
reading his mind as opposed to the torrent of memories the spell
releases).
What keeps bothering me is the question of whether one can *learn* to
be a Legilimens, just like one can apparently learn to be an
Occlumens. If so, is it very advanced magic? If not, just how many
characters can we expect to be adept at it?
And in connection with the Snape-as-Animagus thread: is
Animagic 'just' a form of advanced Transfiguration, or is it a gift
you are born with, like Tonks' Metamorphmagic (an assumption which
seems to be partly born out by the fact that you can't choose the
animal you transform into)? But if the latter is the case, isn't it
an immense coincidence that Remus Lupin's three friends all happen to
possess that ability?
I'd much appreciate everybody's thoughts on the matter.
Yours severely,
Sigune
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